115 thoughts on “23.8.2013”

1. who would switch type 59 to 34-3 -.-

   Why do people even ask such stupid questions.

   • LoL when I read that my reaction was “Why the Hell would you do that”?

     • hahah same here. I had to laugh quite hard.. trading a superior tank for this pile of crap.

       • trading a balanced tank for an unbalanced tank

2. …. and cca 20 tanks will be buffed.

   Now I’m curious ^^

   • About what? USSR tanks? :P

     • Hopefully things like the Churchill Gun Carrier and ARL V39.
       Some tanks in the British and Chinese tress like the 113 needs more work as well.

       • lol the 113 tree is awesome its like the is-7tree but much better

         • Note that I said some tanks.
           The 113 itself is performing worst than the IS-7, and that says a lot.
           The only tank this is much better is the WZ-111 vs IS-8.
           The other tanks are quite well matched against each other.

3. “cca 20 tanks will be buffed”

   Is this the American rebalance?

   • I doubt it, weren’t there voices about nerfing the mantlets of the Murrican heavies?

   • Somewhat hoping that the FV4202 will get a buff. Or at least have the enormous cupola shrunk to the correct size.

     • The whole FV4202 needs to be re-modeled.
       Who aims at the cupola when the turret itself is a weak spot.

   • Arty rebalance. ;)

4. - it’s possible AMX-50B will get a buff

   waiting :D

   • Good, because as it stands now, it’s pretty much useless.

     • AMX-50B Useless? Really? That is amazingly stupid statement.

     • my amx performs ~100 avg dmg per battle more than t57, better gun statistics then and nerf t57 ? cool, ill deffinitelly play an amx with pleasure.

5. >-in 8.9, KV-1S will lose its 122mm gun, Foch, Foch155, T57Heavy and one more tank will be nerfed and cca 20 tanks will be buffed
   Holy cow… and the T57 nerf was named a “hoax” just last week…
   >KV-1S with 122mm as tier 7 premium? “There the model has to be changed. A little, but has to.”
   So, it’ll come but at a later moment?

   • Yaay! It might get a gun closer to the historical one!
     Historical one works like a BL-9, from IS-3. So it will be like an even better KV-1S, in comparission as it is now.

     More pen, in particular.

     • Is this trolling ? x)

       • My money’s on “stupid”. :|

6. Fallout reference! I like it! :)

   • where?

     • Whine. Whine never changes. As in “War. War never changes” basically Fallout moto and heard in every game IIRC

       • Except people have being saying “War. War never changes” for eons.

         • To be fair, all motos and sayings have been said for eons, really.

       • Haha I spotted this one straight away too !
         (This is my second post so hello everyone and congrats to SS and other bloggers for all the awesome reports !)

   • “Whine. Whine never changes.”

     My Fallout 4 character will be named Sergei Bukharovski.

7. “- the possibility for players to switch their Type 59 for T-34-3 for free is not planned”

   Who the hell would want to do that??

8. - in 8.9, KV-1S will lose its 122mm gun

   Im not gonna say if Im happy /unhappy with this. Rather Im amazed despite how many times they said that it will stay on that tank they are gonna remove it in the end. Truly one can never believe what WG say.

9. “- Hetzer rebalance? “All in due time””

   Fuck you, WG. Fuck you… first E-75, VK36 and E-50… now Hetzer…

   … just fuck you.

   • Who says it’s going to be a nerf :P It might move to a totally different branch altogether :P Or…. so they say :P

     • I know, SS, but… “rebalance” of E-75 made it MUCH worse… it burns like hell (20% engine fire chance), lost its dynamic… “rebalance” NEVER mean anything good…

       But Hetzer in “derp gun” branch…

       … speaking of which:

       “Derpinand” – “Because fuck you. And that city near you – too”. ;)

   • Hetzers gonna Hetz. :3

   • Hetzer with the 10,5 is kinda OP right now anyway

     • Unless it meets Matilda/M5A1/other TD with fast-firing gun.

       Hetzer is blind turtle. What is more, after HE nerf one-shooting is not so common.

     • After the HEAT nerf not so much as it used to be.

     • we allready have the derp guns nerfred ehat else can they do in all their desperate ideads to maintain russias supremacy???

     • After the HEAT nerf, this is not OP. It is same hitting power as the Sau40 and far better maneuverability as it should be. Complaining about what is OP because you probably had bad experiences with it has dulled the game. It is getting watered down by WG after all of the constant whining people do. Please give it a rest for a while.

   • Jesus Christ you’re actually complaining about the E-50 change?

     • Actually – yes. Med with high fire chance (20%, was 15%), weak engine and 100mm UFP (was 120?).

       I don’t like it.

     • Tfu, LFP of course :)

       • Yes, 100mm Lower Frontal Plate, but you get a 150mm Upper Frontal Plate, which can easy Bounce shells with around ~250-260mm Penetration. (correct me if im wrong :D )

         • Yeah, E-100 also has thick UFP, somehow no one shoots it…

           • You still don’t get it.
             Current lower/upper plate bounces ~220 pen rounds. I’d say it should stay as it was on E50, but for M it’s useless, while having at least part of armour that’d bounce standard tier X rounds is an… attractive option.

   • Yeah, I’m not looking forward to this either. The Hetzer is one of my keeper tanks…

     • what really needs a nerf is the SU-85B, that thing is rediculous 2nd best camo value in game after the tier 3 french TD and it has a 390m view range :O thats only 10 less than most tier 10′s and it also has a good gun and mobility only down side is its total lack of armour

10. - Sturmtiger won’t come in 2013 or early 2014 (SS: well, “some say” that he’s waiting for its own assault gun branch)

    Vaporware champion of 2012, 2013, and soon 2014.

    • well if it’s getting an assult gun branch then all stugs all jagdpanzers(inc.panther and tiger)

11. Love the Fallout reference answer from SerB.

12. - 8.8 won’t contain engine optimizations.
    Success! SS now speaks normal english :D

    • Great archievement!

      • Arrrrghhhh!!!!!

        • Ha-ha :D

    • It’s “optimisation” in normal (that’s it, British) English, chap.

      • It’s ‘european-english’, a wonderfull blend of british english, american english and whatever slang the user might have picked up watching holywood crap.

        • Holywood? Bitch please – games teached me to spyk english.
          GTA SA – how to swear :D
          So its a blend is US and UK english + each of own nation interpretation.

      • But Z is seven better then S!

13. “Whine. Whine never changes.”

    Perfect description of the WoT community.

    • Hopefully the asker was also RO banned until the day he emerges into a post-apocalyptic nuclear wasteland with nothing but a pistol, knife and some road flares.

      • I’d rather have some Jet. Flares are useless.

14. hetzer is pleasure to play, a bit OP sadly. i got 300-400% dmg ratio on it recently, so nerf is nothing unexpected

15. I’ve read rage finder, and actually thought it is a pretty good idea :-).

    • Only problem is that with THIS playerbase and community it’d very soon be smashed becuase OVER 9000 or simply be overloaded into uselessness.

16. - the Chinese premium tanks might appear in round 2 of 8.8 test
    - in the beginning, T-34-3 and 112 will be available only via giftshop
    - Object 268 won’t be nerfed in 8.9
    - Leopard 1 won’t be buffed in 8.9, but Leopard PTA is not clear yet
    - 2nd German TD branch will start from Marder 2
    - KV-1S with 122mm as tier 7 premium? “There the model has to be changed. A little, but has to.”
    - 121 will not get gun depression buff
    - Hetzer rebalance? “All in due time”
    - it’s possible AMX-50B will get a buff
    - Uralmash-1 will get a traverse buff for 100mm guns
    etc.

    All of this has shit all to do with game balance, which WG could not care less about, and everything to do with encouraging grinding/paying.

    • Wwwwhhiiine!!!

      • He needs more cheese to go with that whine.

    • How in the hell’s name is that not about balance?
      That’s 6 things DIRECTLY about balance in that quote. What’s wrong with you?

17. - 2nd German TD branch will start from Marder 2
    Any idea where the two trees will be linked?
    – E-50 and E-50M frontal armor in 8.8: 150mm upper front, 100mm lower front
    anyone else really worried about this? I know there is a lot of baddies who shoot the front, but still..

    • by front I meant upper.

      • Any idea where the two trees will be linked?

        Why they should be linked?

        • Because most trees, (all but arty in german) are linked at some point.

    • doesnt the e50m got 120mm armor on lower front? if they change it to 100mm R.I.P e50m

      • Currently it has 120 upper and lower and I think it should stay like that. Everybody anyway shoots that part so upper armor buff is useless if they nerf lower.

        • hey gues what?

          tiger 2 also have a stronger upper than lower

          learn to not rely on armor

          • How does that justify nerfing it?

18. - it’s possible AMX-50B will get a buff

    YES PLEASE!!!!

19. - cross-game quests (missions) are not planned, because a part of playerbase will play only WoWp or only WoT
    - it’s possible that missions doable only in groups will be implemented

    => what about ” a part of playerbase will play only solo”?!

20. So THERE’S the KV-1S nerf everybody was whining about…and I welcome it.. Seriously, that thing can pen a tier VIII Heavy from the front as it is now. It’s supposed to be a Heavy Tank with good mobility, not a Tank Destroyer with mobility, armor and firepower; I know, some of you will say “but what about the Germans? They play like turreted Tank Destroyers”, well, that’s because they have no other choice. All they have, really, is their guns, as while their armor appears good on paper, it’s as sloped as the other trees, and even with the planned mobility buff they don’t have the mobility of their Soviet, French, Chinese or American counterparts.

    • There are many tier 6 tanks that can pen tier 8 frontally with premium ammo and skill.

      • Yes, but those don’t do an average of 390 damage a shot. The main problem with that gun is not only the rather high pen, but the damage that’s with it.

    • Can’t count how many times we’ve heard “kv-1s won’t lose 122mm it’s historical”, “kv-1s won’t be nerfed” from Serb. Wargaming the company without standarts!

      • SerB =/= Wargaming, dumbass.

21. “KV-1S with 122mm as tier 7 premium?”

    Just like PzIV – take a player favorite, nerf it, then bring it back for goldz. Ajajaja! Bullshit.

    • First of all, you’re complaining that the KV-1S is getting nerfed. Second, it makes sense to bring it back as a premium, because it requires minimal work and it will be well-balanced as a premium at that tier (basically a slightly weaker IS). Third, you’re complaining about the KV-1S being nerfed. Fourth, you’re complaining that Wargaming is a for-profit company, which is both incredibly obvious and perfectly fine. Finally, you’re complaining that the KV-1S is getting nerfed.

      • I like the idea of a T7 KV-122 premium, I just hope it gets preferential MM, otherwise it’s an easy kill for T9s.

22. “- E-50M and E-100 parameters will also be changed”
    Wait… what? E-100 will be changed? How? Any further informations on this?

    • i am also curious, noone seems to talk about this

23. “Storm states that mod-makers “won’t do” (fix) the official reload timer (SS: in other words, it’s more complicated than it seems)”
    Why would mod makers do that? Mod makers will just replace it, that’s how all mods in WoT work, crappy, primitive UI designed by WG get’s by modded enviroment. (btw. im not rly supraised that Wargaming can’t do properly something that mod makers have done ages ago lol).

    • ^ gets replaced

      • To be fair, its now running on a newer scripting system, and WG wants it to be professionally done, not something that one or two guys may do as a hobby. Same reason any company takes a long time to release things, that modders or independent people seem to do in a few weeks. Nobody likes to see a company release buggy things.

24. i tested all german tanks.i will comment on e-75 and e-50m.e-75 i have the feeling it turns faster,acceleration is the same or a little bit slower but top speed at 40 km helps it a lot.i like it.

    e-50m on the other side got a HUGE nerf.i know that e-50m had 120 in upper and lower plate.upper plate is very strong now but i had the feeling that the lower plate got nerfed.at test tiger and tiger 2 pen me all the times at lower plate,even at big angle.who is going to shoot you at the upper plate anyway.now guns that you could bounce easy they can pen you at your lower plate EASY!!!mega nerf.e-50m gonna collect dust in my garage.

    • The E-50m’s lower plate is 100mm on the test server.

25. So, um, does that mean you can’t even code the reload timer in mods?

26. “- according to SerB, both LTP and T-127 are doing fine”
    Anyone bitching about the T-127 doesn’t know how to play the game. It’s an excellent little medium in-tier (yes I know it’s classified as a light and why, but it handles like a moderately heavy medium), useful in the tier above using gold shells for tough things, and never sees tier 5′s. LTP handles similarly, slightly less tough due to the lower turret armor and thinner upper glacis, but it can hide better due to its height.

    “- Q: “E-50M is underpowered.” A: “Whine. Whine never changes.”
    See above. E-50M is great; I was going to grind up to it until I played the Centurion 7/1 and found it fit my playstyle better.

    Idea: every time someone bitches about one of the game’s good tanks, they should be forced to play the M3 Lee, Pz 38 NA, B1, etc in maximum-tier games only, for a day. That should give them a fresh perspective.

    “- according to Storm, Improved Ventilation module does increase the speed with which a tank can climb a hill”
    In case anyone is confused on this, official reasoning is it’s because the driver makes more efficient use of engine power the higher his skill is.

    “- Hetzer rebalance? “All in due time””
    Remove the 105mm gun from all tanks below tier 5 and all TDs below tier 6. Bam, several tanks made more balanced in one fell swoop.

    And to everyone who feels the KV-1S isn’t overpowered and shouldn’t be nerfed: to echo the greats, “how terrible”. It’s been needing to be taken down a notch for a while now. There’s a reason that you see teams made up of mainly it and Hellcats in medium tank companies.

    Does this mean that the Hellcat is going to receive a nerf too at some point? Dunno. It’s not quite as blatantly overpowered as the KV-1S, but it’s definitely one of the best tier 6 TDs, if not one of the best tier 6′s period. We’ll just have to wait and see.

    • Of course Hellcat needs a nerf, EVERYTHING needs a nerf until ever tank is statistically identical to each other, then noobs will finally learn to play or quit.

    • The average WoT player do 390 damage on kv1-s before going to hangar, but only 240 on hellcat, and that’s the reason why kv1-s will be nerfed and hellcat won’t.

      • Hellcat has ridiculous view range and camo. I make mincemeat out of KV-1s before they even know they’ve been spotted. 72km/h means i can quickly hide somewhere else as soon as my 6th sense goes off.

        It’s already the most played TD at tier 6, after arty nerf and now KV-1s minus 122, they’ll even be more overplayed.

27. someone tell serb rangefinders are in every snipersights mod… WG is way behind again

    • Perhaps what he meant was a way to measure distance to whatever you’re pointing at, not just tanks. And I haven’t yet seen a mod doing such thing. You have to point your crosshair at friendly or enemy tank, dead or alive and then you see the distance. You can’t however point it at a house or a ground somewhere in the middle of field to see how far that point is.

28. “reload timer won’t be fixed in 8.8″
    WG:let’s break things that work
    I wonder if they shut down their pc’s while updating bios -.-

29. YAy never sold my marder with 100% crew, now i can profit from it!

30. The regular Foch is getting nerfed WHY? It’s balanced.

31. About the Sturmtiger, I heard it is impossible to balance this assault tank..
    Didnt they also mention that this tank was supposed to be a premium tank?

    (to be fair, tier 8 is maximum for premium tanks and the sturmtiger would be AT LEAST tier 10 due its superderp 380mm rocket mortar alone)

    The vents do a difference, but one that isnt noticeable, the difference is too tiny.

    About the E-50 thingy, yes, the LFP armor is reduced to 100mm/55° (angle was always the same), but on the tier 10 E-50M, the 120mm/55° LFP would be paper to begin with, thus no noticeable change in the E-50M. In tier 9, no idea. You are supposed to hide the LFP, kinda like you hide hulls in american tanks. At least the german tanks now have -8° gun depression, making that hiding easier.

    Also, the regular foch and the foch 155 nerfs (beside the fact that the foch got nerfed indirectly by the top tier tank gun nerf and it is fine i think?), does this have something to do with the german engines?

32. “roaming from RU on EU servers is planned”

    Nobody else noticed this?
    Does this mean Russian players will be allowed to come over to the EU servers to play?
    Can imagine this leading to a lot of hate from the EU community.
    I mean we’ve already spotted some of them have accounts on the EU server and the hate they get from players is pretty high.

    • So hey, good news, the EU community might actualy find a new nationality to moan and whine about instead of the polish. I’m in.

    • This will make real war in wot. ru vs eu. Now on test server i cant look on those ru players. In game im going to troll them hard. Not that i dont like russians, the just dont like us.

      btw: write on test serveer :stalin is gay: and see what happen xD

      • “Not that i dont like russians, the just dont like us.”
        “btw: write on test serveer :stalin is gay: and see what happen xD”

        …
        …uh-huh.

        • Whats problem? Shoul i like Stalin? Dont be idiot.

33. I think the other tank will be nerfed is T71 LT

34. i would find it funny yet sad if the other tank that they nerf is the T30. After all it seemed to be WG favorite tank to nerf. Does anyone remember how many nerfs that poor tank has had?

35. - increased amount of model polygons will come in global remodelling (SS: 2014)

    Hahaha, I bet they saw the War Thunder Ground Forces screenshots and thought “oh fuck”.

36. Well its clear to me that wargammin forgot what made World of Tanks successful, the game was fun while it lasted.

37. serb is a cunt. smelly, shitty cunt.