56 thoughts on “What Tank to Use to Get Super Pershing?”

1. If that is the average per battle XP… I should be Super Unicum.

   • Those are core XPs (no daily double, premium acc, special event etc.)
     And, as SS said, not taking into consideration all battles, only those where someone uploaded him/her results.

     • Yes, i figured that one out. Still it seems very low compared with what i am used too getting. Whenever i get that amount of XP i consider that i have screwed up somehow. The first one for example, i suck with the AMX 50 100. Still If i got 397 XP in it then it means i barely managed to unload a clip.

       Then again, it could prolly even out with the losses since i almost never look at the results of them, to busy fighting in another vehicule.

       • Well your average xp in the 50 100 is 750, which considering your wr and DPB I assume is with premium, amounting to ~500 base xp per game, so not that significantly higher than these figures.
         Like you said, it’s the average xp, counting both wins and losses. And when you grind, losses are just as important as the rest as they’re still extra xp.

   • Yay, another CELL player on FTR :P

2. i think that if you count all EU server, those numbers would be way way lower. Cos 90% red player “i have no idea what im doing” will melt any extremes

3. Why is Object 416 suprising? Mostly good players use it (never seen tomato in it), it has great gun, camo and if used properly with camo crew its a killer.

   KV1S is OP despite bad statistics. These are made by army of braindead zombie tomatoes, not by the tank itself.

   • I’m sorry, the camo on the 416 is FAR from good. With camo’d crew, anyone can still see you, without shooting, in 360 meters, tested in training. That’s the only real reason i researched to it and was profoundly disappointed.

     • Using, on average, a 400m viewrange tank. I was the one doing the spotting, mainly in a Caernarvon or Centurion mk 1/3

     • The 416 has the 4th best stationary camo rating in the game, better than every single light tank, even the ELC.

       http://www.wotinfo.net/en/camouflage?country=all&vehicletype=all&tier=all&showLines=3000

   • yes noob players hate the tank cause it’s difficult to play it, back turret, limited angle etc, so yeah only good players use it!

4. But in Asia Server you can grind exp with Tier 9 and 10 excluding Premium tanks

5. @SS:

   These tables are nonsense in connection with that mission, because they dont tell you anthing about xp-multi but about tank balancing and player behavior over a longer period of time.

   Under normal conditions t8 tanks are best suited for the mission, because your get the biggest bot bonus in hight tier matches. Up to 500 base XP for doing nothing in t10 matches, if your team wins by killing all enemies.

   Bot bonus is depending on enemy hitpoints destroyed in a match btw.

   • I would further add that IMO Tier 6-8 lights are the easiest XP grinders. Either passively by silent spotting in a bush or actively by taking out tracks on high tiers whenever you see they are about to get killed, shit loads of assisted dmg XP that you would never get just by trying to do the damage.

     • It depends – silent spotting might give more XP, but can make the battle longer.

       • I found out the contrary. Usually it ends faster if i am in a good position since my team get the targets handed to them on a plate and are able to shoot from beyond spotting range. If the battle takes longer it is also due to the spotting but only in the case where there are not enough ppl behind you to destroy the targets ahead quickly enough. Then it serves as a prolongment of the match since that flank you are spotting is kept from getting overrun.

   • Up to 500 base XP for doing nothing in t10 matches, if your team wins by killing all enemies.

     And you will get nothing because only first 10 results are counted to the mission. Bots are below.

     • just making two hits will usually get up in the top ten … t10 games where the best makes way below 2K damage on the losing team are common. And often enough you find 0 damage idiots also on the winning side.

6. I’d prefer advising to use whatever tank the person feels good with. For example I have 500+ average XP on Black Prince, so I’ll probably use that one. And of course, it always depends on what’s in your garage. Buying 50 100 because it has slightly better XP gain is foolish, IMO. You can as well buy BDR – way cheaper and you’ll get pretty much the same XP if you play well.

7. Soooo, you will need (with an average 400 xp per battle) 31,25 hour gameplay on each nation to achieve the bonus tank.
   75000 xp / 400 xp = 187,5 round. If one round takey cca. 10 minutes, than it’s 1875 minutes of gameplay. 1875 minutes are 31,25 hours. Ok, not counted with daily doubles, with premium, but not counted with massive lose streaks as well. It can be 630 xp / game with prem and with dailys in average, but thats still 19,83 hours.
   And this is only 1 nation….How much do we have? 7.
   So for a pershing, you have to do:
   non-premium average: 218,75 hours of gameplay.
   premium average: 138,81 hours of gameplay.

   If you go out to spread some advertisement sheets, you can earn it (in a realtively poor country) with 1,5 euro hourly fee in 18 hours.
   (7200 gold – buying 7500 costs roughly 27 euro)
   If you are a grown man and taking some overtime, calculating with 3 euro / hour, you can earn it in 9 hours. If you are an office worker, it’s much more less. If you are a western-european worker, you earn this money while you take a visit in the toilet.

   • This mission is for chronic unemployed people :)

     • Or people who like to play the game. You can buy anything with money, but then you could just as well not play the game at all.

   • I guess you not working anyway. this is a game. I will play as usually, going all tiers except 9. and will get SP in process easily.
     work for a week, buy wot account in ebay, come back here to say you are genius….poor ppl the ones without imagination

     • AS: If you wrote it to me, I can tell you, that I am working, I could easily buy several pershings from my daily salary, but I won’t. Because I don’t need it and I dont want to be a slave of the game. I am playing from closed beta and now it became too repetative. I made tough grinds, it was enough. I have a real life and I want to live it while I can.
       You are right, this is a game. I only want to show you, that it takes away days from your life. In 200+ hours you can earn a forklift driver qualification for example, or participate in a language training, which brings more benefit in the future. (Hell, a complete Skyrim playthrough took only 90 hours several years ago…) If an employer is courious about your skills, you can’t tell him/her, that you don’t have any, but instead you have 8 tier X in your garage, a super pershing, a type59, an M60, and your efficiency rating is 1800… ;)

       • you put too much in one way or another. I run 10k, so I could relax after work. I play some tanks so I could relax. that’s it. I will collect only doubles and it should be ok.
         and mate, you care about work too much. at the end of the day we will all die :)
         so life is not about working working is never over :) good luck whatever you will do. the only thing-enjoy it. I found my formula in turning chat of :D

   • I actually like this analysis. It shows how much time we’re investing in WOT and how WG encourages us to spend even more, with such a safe (for them) promotion :)

   • I dunno what game you are playing that the battles last 10 minutes, most of mine are over in 5. And anyone not afking or botting will have far better xp per battle than that. I mean if It really took 100 minutes game play to grind 4k xp as your “maths” suggests no one would bother. For most people they can grind that 4k xp in 2-3 battles thanks to the daily double, which is 20 minutes top. Do that for half the nations each night over the time of the mission and you will get you super pershing with a week to spare. A lot of people play that hour and a half of wot a night anyway, so all they need to do is limit what tanks they are playing.

     Anyway, if you view playing the game as work why even bother in the first place, idgi.

8. Obj_416_Best_Tier_8

   :D

9. AT-15 is not allowed, only standard tanks – no premiums.

   • AT-15 =/= AT-15a

     • AT 15 tier VIII TD, AT 15A premium tier VII TD

10. Hmm i think this post is useless. Everyone has own preferences in vehicles and those stats are crap. Everyone should look at his own stats – I have avg 710xp in tiger Porsche ( no prem ofc) and its not even on the list here

    • yea pointless stats.
      its how you play a tank not how others have played it.
      every one is different, every game is different.
      but I suppose a bad player in a bad tank will be lucky to match these stats.

11. Still not sure,
    gotta use one tank for 75.000 xp are jusr tier4 to 8s of that nation?
    mfg exterminus
    PPS: Still, would advise to check your own service record, sort by XP, check the in garage checkbox (think that one comes with XVM) and sort by average XP, use the highest raating tank u like to play for every nation (that is if it is one tank)

    • kinda confirmed to myself:
      u can use several vehicles, it gets add up,
      and premium+daily double count, if it ain’t 75 in one day should be piece o cake

12. Hm, maybe the “average battle-time for each vehicle” should’ve been taken into account…
    I can imagine that AMX 50 100 gains more overall-XP, but AMX 13 90 gets more XP/per equal time or sth like that.

    Anyway… nice table, I always love those clear overviews by FTR

13. And still Borsig owner will never admit this vehicles is overpowered as fuck

    • I’m driving one and there is no doubt it’s OP. It has turret eventhough it’s a TD and camo is epic. Pretty much whole waffle line is OP excet maybe Sturer Emil i would say. And T10 waffleshit is most broken tank in the game.

      • I wouldn’t say the Flak Bus is OP. Yeah, the gun’s great (the gun traverse arc, on the other hand, isn’t), but it’s a tier 5 TD with no armor, it’s the size of a bus (hence the name) – making it very hard to hide on a lot of maps – and only 350 hp. If that thing gets spotted at all, it’s as good as dead, particularly since you have the M4 Sherman, Panzer IV H, and other vehicles with 105 mm or larger howitzers that can blow it away with one HE shell.

14. Dafuq? Even the S-51 earns more average XP than the KV-1S?
    That means a LOT of n00bs playing that OP tenk.

15. I already have an American premium medium, so I’m not even going to try this mission. :)

    Good luck to the rest and I hope you won’t go crazy from the tomatoes. ;)

16. if you have slots in garage just buy 2 tanks for each nation (even t4-6) and just do double xp every day, you need average about 2700exp daily per nation. two bad doubles will do (with 2 more lost games it is even too much :P)

17. Why did you use Experience per battle and not Experience per Minute?

18. That KV-1S is the perfect example of why WG balancing rules suck so much ass. Get enough tomatoes playing a particular tank and it doesn’t matter how OP it is, it wont get nerfed because there are 10x as many drooling window lickers using it as 50%+ people.

    • Not to mention that the W/R has nothing do with the balancing anyway. If they want, they just nerf it, if it has good W/R or not. Case in point, E-75. M103 and ST-I performed much better, yet no nerf..

19. Frank…don’t take those stats serious.Although those are the average stats of those tanks, the way a single player plays them is very different.
    For example, on the british line, I suck at playing the ATes, but on the other hand I find the Cromwell amazing.Also, I also enjoy the ARL44 as much as the 50 100.Hell, I like it even more than the KV-1S.
    It really depends on the player.

    Also, KV-1S is ranked so low because every retard and their dogs play it.

20. Where did you lose SU-100?

    Also, few quick glances and you can tell these tables are non-sense… well at least for anyone above 200 WN. They look skewed by tier 8 tanks used in team battles.

21. So STA-1 has the highest average XP score of every tank in the entire game?
    Nice to know.

22. it says on wg site that it doesn’t take into count x2 xp and premium but when i check in game it does so doing x2 on different tanks is probably best approach. Is this a bug or will x2-x3 count for event?

    • It means…all the exp gets taken in to account for the mission…x2 and prem…BUT….for the top ten who recieve this “reward” only the base exp is counted…that excluding prem and x2.

23. Ok thanks
    I got it now

24. The reason for the high avg xp on the obj 416 is because it has a great DPM and avg damage per shot.

25. As easy as doing doubles with 2 in each nation, with the (sure) specials with some x5 or so….done.

26. AMX M4 mle. 45 dont exist in WOT … only 46 and 48

    • If the AMX M4 mle 45 doesn’t exist in WoT, why is it on the french tree as the tier 7 heavy between ARL 44 and AMX 50/100?

      • fail … i dont know why i read it as TD lol even when i wrote it right…