here are the pictures of the M41 Walker Bulldog, upcoming tier 7 American light tank. The pictures are in top configuration. Interesting part is that it is not made in HD.
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No matter how detailed these models are, in the end they all look like little toy tanks. That’s all thanks to the arcadiest gameplay ever and screwed up scale in this game. Great work, WG.
You one of those people that believe “arcade” gameplay is bad? Or less demanding then authentic or even realistic (ARMA :P ) gameplay?
The tanks look well on lower FoV, HD models and good maps. WG must improve it still though.
If u want realism …. enlist in the army … a conflict zone will be better.
If you look at IRL tank from few meters above – it looks like a toy. It’s all matter of scale.
You are pretty right man.
database: have you ever seen real machines from a helicopter or a high vantage point?? when you are high anough all giant machines looks like a toys/models with insane level of detail and shading….
Oh my god, we had this kind of whine for so long already. This is WoT, it is made to be ARCADE and not 100% historicaly accurate. The historicity is bend for the sake of playability. WoT is a GAME about TANKS and not a SIMULATOR or HISTORY EDUCATOR.
Now I hope I got rid of your misunderstanding. Have a nice day.
If WoT had been a simulator I dont think I would enjoy it at all. Im thankfull that WoT is an arcade game. I play for fun not to learn how to drive a tank.
I’d maybe play a simulator mode, but I wouldn’t want it to replace the standard modes.
Then again if people want a simulator then they can go and play War Thunder, but personally I prefer arcade gameplay.
War Thunder is not a simulator.
At most its authentic. Not EVEN CLOSE to a simulator. Barely Less arcade then WoT
Exactly WT is for guys who want to pretend they play “Realistic” games but dont really wanna spend 25 minutes of driving just to make contact with enemy, then spend 30 secs after spotting them to enter a firing solution fire, wait for dust to clear and try to spot the target again and repeat, then instantly blowing up from the enemy redirecting fire.
Tank sim=boring as hell just as real fight sims are and at least with real flight sims the takeoff and landing are very fun with a tank your just a tractor until theres something to shoot.
I played tank sims 8 years ago, and yes it was effing boring to travel 10+ minutes to the fighting zone and die within second.
Or camp through the entire match to defend the crossing.
WT is a near perfect blend of sim and arcade.
WT GF is shitty and boring as hell…
Japanese cartoons fans accusing others of screwing up scale? Hahahaha now I’ve seen everything.
lol true
I think what you fail to see here is that there are differences in the fundamental intent behind the design of anime/cartoon characters, and tanks in a game whose main selling point is “historical accuracy”. I’m aware that Wargaming changes certain characteristics of the vehicles to maintain a decent amount of balance in the game, which is understandable; however, the dimensions of a tank is a defining characteristic, and should be represented as accurate as possible.
While I’m personally not bothered by small discrepancies in scale in World of Tanks (and your point on the scale of anime/cartoon characters is valid), your stupidity and ignorance is worth noting and pointing out.
Dude what deminsions do yo uthink are so off? Im sorry but I dont see the whole scale problem….As said by others look at pictures of real tanks and without men standing near them they also look tiny, just like WW2 planes look much smaller without pilots but infact were massive.
Perspective comes from crews+tanks but tanks alone look small INRL
I wouldn’t call it bias, it was just the example I had most recently seen a direct comparison with its RL counterpart.
I believe the T95 is also smaller in-game than in reality, however, I’d have to confirm it.
T95 is correct. Most tanks are
Oh no its a game and the tanks look not real because they aren’t real…argghhhh!
Top speed, engine power? Or is everything still hanging in the air?
Yes, hanging in the air. Still has placeholder stats.
hay silentstalker why is the M24/t24 chaffee going to say at tier 5? and the t21 stay at tier 6?
The M24/t24 chaffee came after and more modern than the T21.
Answer is simple – because US tree is messed up by Wargaming and they need to make serious cleanup there.
Because the m24 is a logical predecessor to the t37 and m41, while the t21 is the odd one out.
Also, different branches. The Indien Panzer is more modern than the maus. Doesn’t mean they should be swapped. Or t92 and m55…
THIS LOOKS AMAZING :D now i know why you asked us to check ftr in few mins :D
THIS LOOKS AMAZING :D thx for telling us to come check FTR in few mins :P
Mini m47 patton XD
Mini M1A1 Arabs tank xD
If they implement this in that 2005 quality model it will be fucking ridiculous.
Interesting.Didn’t they said that the last models to be added with standard textures would be the PzIV and StuGIII variants?
Whatever…I don’t care about their shiny HD models…an unnecessary change IMHO…who the hell needs HD-es when the game is barely optimised…
They could be part of the new SD set of models which players will be allowed to choose between in 9.4
That, or they have just been sitting on these models for a while
Well we saw they had the T37 model done a while ago on the Nat. Geo. special. Maybe they are finishing the HD model and are just using the old SD one to test tank balance and game play until it’s ready?
Yeah, maybe.
If not they’re just confirming themselves as some lazy asses.
Looks like they got cocky and biten more than they could chew. They really outdid themselves and two-upped gaijin with the HD tank models, but in return now they’ll have it significantly harder to follow up on that with each subsequent patch, since there’s really no simple way to speed up the process, regardless of what WG might claim…
Not really unnecessary. Believe it or not, some people are tired of driving square tanks.
Well, I enjoy eye-candy in every game I play, but only as long as I can play it properly.
While I can play the latests games on medium-high settings with decent FPS, I’m struggling to pull those FPS in WoT with low to medium settings with shadows and AA off, which isn’t normal.So I prefer the square tanks until they resolve the optimisation problems.
Your statement would make sense if it was anyhow related to how WG works. The guys doing the optimisation are (not) doing their work while the graphic designers are doing theirs. The fault is both on their programmers and on the ancient engine, but it doesn’t mean that the game should stop evolving. There are people like me that can play without problems on maxed out settings and after switching from a prettier game are kinda let down by the square “wheels” on their tanks. Stopping the HD model rework will change absolutely nothing but make the game look even more outdated in the future.
Yeah, man, but people like you that can “play without problems on maxed out settings” are a minority compared to the majority of players like me, who either got a decent or a wooden PC.Not a sky-rocketing one.
Even WG stated that most of their russian player-base use wooden PCes, and it’s a reason why they still kept the standard render.
Yeah, evolving is a must in a competitive gaming era, but WG is evolving graphics-wise at the expense of losing it’s major player-base, if they continue evolving without optimising.
And about the engine, when you know you got a crappy one, with the excuse that it’s perfect for server handling, you don’t just throw HD stuff and more and more shiny features without thinking about the optimisation.
That leads back to my main point, that I don’t give a fuck about their HD stuff and other eye-candy features until they optimise their game.
Company isn’t a strategy game where you put universal resources into something and it suddenly gets better. Switching off a windmill won’t mean that the barn will do better.
WG has various issues with the optimisation: shit engine, shit coders and retarded publishing department stomping on developers. And the problem is mainly in the third part. They just want stuff faster and better while not giving any shit about how’s actually the progress on the game. They rush patches full of bugs that they barely tested. Then you have the incompetent programmers that, being rushed by everyone, do even more mistakes. Not to mention that they ignore half of the reports from the test server, but then there’s again the “PATCH MUST GO LIVE NAO” from above, so what do you expect. Nothing to do about the engine, just suck it up.
As I said, if the optimisation is going to hell anyway, then give me at least shiny, round tanks. You will be able to switch off HD stuff anyway.
Maybe they’re saving the HD model for it’s release?
Yeah I want multicore 1000x more than HD. The entire reason WT is able to look better is better optomizing= jacking up graphics.
t7 the buldog, then whats the t8?
Maybe T49 Lt ?
yeah yeah, i was reading back the posts and i just saw it… but thanks :)
the gun is look like M48′s 90mm stock gun
or we have T71′s 76mm non-autoloader version ?
The later
WZ-131, AMX 13 75, T71, Aufkl. Panther.
so what would WG gives it so that i would research this tank.
The M37 will play like current chaffee. This is going to be an upscaled version (my gut guess is bit better mobility, and obviously more penetration. Think of it as not retarded AFK panther)
So yes, M41 should have it’s niche place among all the light tanks :)
Tier 7? So this will be Auflfbsdjkagerkhehfwhfuqwhrerejfgj Panther’s competition… Yeah, ok…
Yeah I meant some ingame pictures. Anyway tier8 light leopard I with 9cm gun. I really hope that it will be a great tank ’cause I love german tanks, light tanks and leopard I, so a mash-up of the three MUST be epic!
I’m not the only one to notice some similarities between the M41 and PZ III hulls, right?
There’s only so many different ways a metal box on tracks can look like.
all new tanks in HD, walker bulldog not HD, wargaming is incompetent
just got a tamado yoshio medal today in my faithful chaffee , looking forward to a tier 6 light tank if its better than the chaffee will be awesome
Only the first image loads for me. :/
I just wanna know whatll happen to my Chaffee from all this. Hopefully it wont get nerfed. >.>
it might :D
Hopefully it will – it is truly OP for it’s tier which is why it has insanely poor MM
Chaffee doesn’t see tier 5 games so saying its OP for its tier is irrelevant. It is treated as a tier 6 tank with scout MM.
It will.
It REALLY is however a shame to have tanks looking less real than the competition… I dont care much about the environment, but the tanks should look bad ass realistic in my opinion :-)
So, does supertester got their hand on RU251 already?
I’d think so since they all come in the same patch.
So i heard that the M41 IRL was an autoloader, is it an autoloader in game too?
No its not, the autoloader was a different prototype model that never went very far. The Real life M41 that went into service did not have an autoloader.
Who ever told u that was talking crap,
I vagly remember reading somewhere autoloaders when out of favour with the us army around the time the m41 was introduced because of logistical problems with the limited round capacity of autoloaders thus reducing overall combat efficiency.
Looks …. suspicious! Notice that the lightning of the hangar itself is not “maxed out”. I reccomend to check the actual hangar in game, and compare to the screenshot one. Perhaps the graphics were not at max? Or mabe (lets hope so) WG invented an option to lower the ammount of polygons with the existing “Particle quality” adjustmet?
Let me know in comments what do you sir/miss think.
-McPJ
These screenshots were taken using Tank Viewer program, not in the game.
think they had this model before they started making them in HD.
look the second french heavy tree. its done some years ago they just keep them in the drawer.
What is going to be done about the conflicting names between the new M37 and M41 Light Tanks and the existing M37 and M41 Artillery?
It won’t be a problem, cause the game files will be named slightly different, something like for example M41_2(obviously this not following WG file naming sense)
There won’t be a new “M37″. It’s called the T37.
New M41 will probably be like the Chaffee —> “Walker Bulldog”.
All this work for a category of tank which is basically dead in the water….
Blame WN8
Does this mean they will be going to tier 10 with light tanks eventually?
No matter how detailed these models are, in the end they all look like little toy tanks. That’s all thanks to the arcadiest gameplay ever and screwed up scale in this game. Great work, WG.
You one of those people that believe “arcade” gameplay is bad? Or less demanding then authentic or even realistic (ARMA :P ) gameplay?
The tanks look well on lower FoV, HD models and good maps. WG must improve it still though.
If u want realism …. enlist in the army … a conflict zone will be better.
If you look at IRL tank from few meters above – it looks like a toy. It’s all matter of scale.
You are pretty right man.
database: have you ever seen real machines from a helicopter or a high vantage point?? when you are high anough all giant machines looks like a toys/models with insane level of detail and shading….
That’s true, but what about the recurring case of:
http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/07/07/giants-in-wot-2/
This isn’t a matter of perspective.
Oh my god, we had this kind of whine for so long already. This is WoT, it is made to be ARCADE and not 100% historicaly accurate. The historicity is bend for the sake of playability. WoT is a GAME about TANKS and not a SIMULATOR or HISTORY EDUCATOR.
Now I hope I got rid of your misunderstanding. Have a nice day.
If WoT had been a simulator I dont think I would enjoy it at all. Im thankfull that WoT is an arcade game. I play for fun not to learn how to drive a tank.
I’d maybe play a simulator mode, but I wouldn’t want it to replace the standard modes.
Then again if people want a simulator then they can go and play War Thunder, but personally I prefer arcade gameplay.
War Thunder is not a simulator.
At most its authentic. Not EVEN CLOSE to a simulator. Barely Less arcade then WoT
Exactly WT is for guys who want to pretend they play “Realistic” games but dont really wanna spend 25 minutes of driving just to make contact with enemy, then spend 30 secs after spotting them to enter a firing solution fire, wait for dust to clear and try to spot the target again and repeat, then instantly blowing up from the enemy redirecting fire.
Tank sim=boring as hell just as real fight sims are and at least with real flight sims the takeoff and landing are very fun with a tank your just a tractor until theres something to shoot.
I played tank sims 8 years ago, and yes it was effing boring to travel 10+ minutes to the fighting zone and die within second.
Or camp through the entire match to defend the crossing.
WT is a near perfect blend of sim and arcade.
WT GF is shitty and boring as hell…
Japanese cartoons fans accusing others of screwing up scale? Hahahaha now I’ve seen everything.
lol true
I think what you fail to see here is that there are differences in the fundamental intent behind the design of anime/cartoon characters, and tanks in a game whose main selling point is “historical accuracy”. I’m aware that Wargaming changes certain characteristics of the vehicles to maintain a decent amount of balance in the game, which is understandable; however, the dimensions of a tank is a defining characteristic, and should be represented as accurate as possible.
While I’m personally not bothered by small discrepancies in scale in World of Tanks (and your point on the scale of anime/cartoon characters is valid), your stupidity and ignorance is worth noting and pointing out.
Dude what deminsions do yo uthink are so off? Im sorry but I dont see the whole scale problem….As said by others look at pictures of real tanks and without men standing near them they also look tiny, just like WW2 planes look much smaller without pilots but infact were massive.
Perspective comes from crews+tanks but tanks alone look small INRL
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#RUSSIANBIAS
I wouldn’t call it bias, it was just the example I had most recently seen a direct comparison with its RL counterpart.
I believe the T95 is also smaller in-game than in reality, however, I’d have to confirm it.
T95 is correct. Most tanks are
Oh no its a game and the tanks look not real because they aren’t real…argghhhh!
Top speed, engine power? Or is everything still hanging in the air?
Yes, hanging in the air. Still has placeholder stats.
hay silentstalker why is the M24/t24 chaffee going to say at tier 5? and the t21 stay at tier 6?
The M24/t24 chaffee came after and more modern than the T21.
Answer is simple – because US tree is messed up by Wargaming and they need to make serious cleanup there.
Because the m24 is a logical predecessor to the t37 and m41, while the t21 is the odd one out.
Also, different branches. The Indien Panzer is more modern than the maus. Doesn’t mean they should be swapped. Or t92 and m55…
THIS LOOKS AMAZING :D now i know why you asked us to check ftr in few mins :D
THIS LOOKS AMAZING :D thx for telling us to come check FTR in few mins :P
Mini m47 patton XD
Mini M1A1 Arabs tank xD
If they implement this in that 2005 quality model it will be fucking ridiculous.
Interesting.Didn’t they said that the last models to be added with standard textures would be the PzIV and StuGIII variants?
Whatever…I don’t care about their shiny HD models…an unnecessary change IMHO…who the hell needs HD-es when the game is barely optimised…
They could be part of the new SD set of models which players will be allowed to choose between in 9.4
That, or they have just been sitting on these models for a while
Well we saw they had the T37 model done a while ago on the Nat. Geo. special. Maybe they are finishing the HD model and are just using the old SD one to test tank balance and game play until it’s ready?
Yeah, maybe.
If not they’re just confirming themselves as some lazy asses.
Looks like they got cocky and biten more than they could chew. They really outdid themselves and two-upped gaijin with the HD tank models, but in return now they’ll have it significantly harder to follow up on that with each subsequent patch, since there’s really no simple way to speed up the process, regardless of what WG might claim…
Not really unnecessary. Believe it or not, some people are tired of driving square tanks.
Well, I enjoy eye-candy in every game I play, but only as long as I can play it properly.
While I can play the latests games on medium-high settings with decent FPS, I’m struggling to pull those FPS in WoT with low to medium settings with shadows and AA off, which isn’t normal.So I prefer the square tanks until they resolve the optimisation problems.
Your statement would make sense if it was anyhow related to how WG works. The guys doing the optimisation are (not) doing their work while the graphic designers are doing theirs. The fault is both on their programmers and on the ancient engine, but it doesn’t mean that the game should stop evolving. There are people like me that can play without problems on maxed out settings and after switching from a prettier game are kinda let down by the square “wheels” on their tanks. Stopping the HD model rework will change absolutely nothing but make the game look even more outdated in the future.
Yeah, man, but people like you that can “play without problems on maxed out settings” are a minority compared to the majority of players like me, who either got a decent or a wooden PC.Not a sky-rocketing one.
Even WG stated that most of their russian player-base use wooden PCes, and it’s a reason why they still kept the standard render.
Yeah, evolving is a must in a competitive gaming era, but WG is evolving graphics-wise at the expense of losing it’s major player-base, if they continue evolving without optimising.
And about the engine, when you know you got a crappy one, with the excuse that it’s perfect for server handling, you don’t just throw HD stuff and more and more shiny features without thinking about the optimisation.
That leads back to my main point, that I don’t give a fuck about their HD stuff and other eye-candy features until they optimise their game.
Company isn’t a strategy game where you put universal resources into something and it suddenly gets better. Switching off a windmill won’t mean that the barn will do better.
WG has various issues with the optimisation: shit engine, shit coders and retarded publishing department stomping on developers. And the problem is mainly in the third part. They just want stuff faster and better while not giving any shit about how’s actually the progress on the game. They rush patches full of bugs that they barely tested. Then you have the incompetent programmers that, being rushed by everyone, do even more mistakes. Not to mention that they ignore half of the reports from the test server, but then there’s again the “PATCH MUST GO LIVE NAO” from above, so what do you expect. Nothing to do about the engine, just suck it up.
As I said, if the optimisation is going to hell anyway, then give me at least shiny, round tanks. You will be able to switch off HD stuff anyway.
Maybe they’re saving the HD model for it’s release?
Yeah I want multicore 1000x more than HD. The entire reason WT is able to look better is better optomizing= jacking up graphics.
t7 the buldog, then whats the t8?
Maybe T49 Lt ?
yeah yeah, i was reading back the posts and i just saw it… but thanks :)
the gun is look like M48′s 90mm stock gun
or we have T71′s 76mm non-autoloader version ?
The later
WZ-131, AMX 13 75, T71, Aufkl. Panther.
so what would WG gives it so that i would research this tank.
The M37 will play like current chaffee. This is going to be an upscaled version (my gut guess is bit better mobility, and obviously more penetration. Think of it as not retarded AFK panther)
So yes, M41 should have it’s niche place among all the light tanks :)
Tier 7? So this will be Auflfbsdjkagerkhehfwhfuqwhrerejfgj Panther’s competition… Yeah, ok…
I want pictures of the ru251
Overlord’s blog has pics
http://overlord-wot.blogspot.ca/2013/02/wot-german-top-lt.html?m=1
I think he meant in-game pics
Yeah I meant some ingame pictures. Anyway tier8 light leopard I with 9cm gun. I really hope that it will be a great tank ’cause I love german tanks, light tanks and leopard I, so a mash-up of the three MUST be epic!
I’m not the only one to notice some similarities between the M41 and PZ III hulls, right?
There’s only so many different ways a metal box on tracks can look like.
all new tanks in HD, walker bulldog not HD, wargaming is incompetent
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just got a tamado yoshio medal today in my faithful chaffee , looking forward to a tier 6 light tank if its better than the chaffee will be awesome
Only the first image loads for me. :/
I just wanna know whatll happen to my Chaffee from all this. Hopefully it wont get nerfed. >.>
it might :D
Hopefully it will – it is truly OP for it’s tier which is why it has insanely poor MM
Chaffee doesn’t see tier 5 games so saying its OP for its tier is irrelevant. It is treated as a tier 6 tank with scout MM.
It will.
It REALLY is however a shame to have tanks looking less real than the competition… I dont care much about the environment, but the tanks should look bad ass realistic in my opinion :-)
So, does supertester got their hand on RU251 already?
I’d think so since they all come in the same patch.
So i heard that the M41 IRL was an autoloader, is it an autoloader in game too?
No its not, the autoloader was a different prototype model that never went very far. The Real life M41 that went into service did not have an autoloader.
Who ever told u that was talking crap,
I vagly remember reading somewhere autoloaders when out of favour with the us army around the time the m41 was introduced because of logistical problems with the limited round capacity of autoloaders thus reducing overall combat efficiency.
Looks …. suspicious! Notice that the lightning of the hangar itself is not “maxed out”. I reccomend to check the actual hangar in game, and compare to the screenshot one. Perhaps the graphics were not at max? Or mabe (lets hope so) WG invented an option to lower the ammount of polygons with the existing “Particle quality” adjustmet?
Let me know in comments what do you sir/miss think.
-McPJ
These screenshots were taken using Tank Viewer program, not in the game.
think they had this model before they started making them in HD.
look the second french heavy tree. its done some years ago they just keep them in the drawer.
ABOUT DAMN TIME!!!!!
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What is going to be done about the conflicting names between the new M37 and M41 Light Tanks and the existing M37 and M41 Artillery?
It won’t be a problem, cause the game files will be named slightly different, something like for example M41_2(obviously this not following WG file naming sense)
There won’t be a new “M37″. It’s called the T37.
New M41 will probably be like the Chaffee —> “Walker Bulldog”.
All this work for a category of tank which is basically dead in the water….
Blame WN8
Does this mean they will be going to tier 10 with light tanks eventually?