Hello everyone,
the M36 Jackson tank destroyer served in the Balkan region for practically 60 years, which is not very usual for wartime tech (the T-54 medium tank for example does have a very long career as well, but that’s not a wartime vehicle, at least not in the way the Jackson was). The Jacksons participated in practically all the conflicts in the Balkan region from 1991 to 2001 and the last pieces were withdrawn from service in Serbia and Montenegro in 2005 – at that point, the vehicles had 60 years of service behind them.
The M36 GMC self-propelled guns were sold to Yugoslavia during the Yugoslav-Soviet crisis, when Yugoslavia was threatened by the Soviets and their eastern bloc allies. It all started in 1948, when Moscow heavily criticized the Yugoslav leader, Josip Broz Tito for not bowing down to Stalin and for not following his directives. Along with the threats came embargos on various things, including military technologies and arms. Border clashes between the Yugoslav and the eastern bloc troops also happened and there was a general fear that Yugoslavia would be pulled forcibly into the Soviet bloc.
The Americans decided to help Tito by offering military aid. It was believed that if there was an armed conflict, the Soviets would use large numbers of armor they had at their disposal and so the American offer to Yugoslavia included many anti-tank vehicles and guns, including the AT recoilless guns, bazookas, tanks and wartime tank destroyers. Amongst them were of course the surplus Jacksons, coming from the 1944 and 1945 wartime production runs. These vehicles were also refitted during the Korean war, their gun was upgraded from the original 90mm M3 to the M3A1 model. Two basic variants were sold to Yugoslavia – the M36B1 (with a M4A3 Sherman hull) and M36B2 (based on the M10 Wolverine hull). Both variants’ hulls were produced between 1942 and 1945.
The first 10 pieces of the M36B2 variant were accepted in service by the Yugoslav People’s Army (YPA) in 1953 as a part of the American MDAP aid program. More shipments of Jacksons followed until 1957 (when the MDAP program ended) and altogether, the Americans transferred 399 of these tank destroyers to Yugoslavia between those years. The first units to be equipped with the Jacksons were those units, who would be potentially facing the Soviet invasion. The Yugoslav infantry regiments recieved batteries of six M36 Jackson tank destroyers, the commanders of Yugoslav infantry divisions had detachments (“diviziony”) of 18 of these tank destroyers at their disposal. Yugoslav tank brigades had batteries consisting of four of these vehicles and in order to defend Yugoslavia against eastern bloc aggression, 14 anti-tank regiments (consisting mainly of the Jackson batteries) were formed.
According to the Americans, the large numbers of M36 tank destroyers were quite enough to stem the Soviet tide, as the 90mm gun could penetrate the frontal armor of the most numerous Soviet tank at that point, T-34/85. The Yugoslavs disagreed however, estimating that the Soviet Union would attack also with the modern, well-armed and armored T-54 medium tanks. That’s why the Yugoslav 1957 war plans no longer counted on direct confrontations between the Jacksons and the enemy tanks, it was assumed the M36′s would have to rely on flanking maneuvers.
What however made the situation much easier for Yugoslavia were two things. First was that the Americans, along with the Jacksons, also sold Yugoslavia a number of the relatively modern M47 Patton II tanks. These used the same ammunition as the Jacksons, making the logistics easier – the M47 would heavily influence the Yugoslav native tank development for years to come, but that is a story that was already told on FTR. Second thing was that the 90mm ammunition was also produced locally. Even during the MDAP program, the Yugoslav military technology institute (VTI) prepared for the local production of the ammunition and between 1955 and 1959, new indigenous HE shell (M 67) was developed. Furthermore, VTI developed a slow-rotating HEAT shell M 74 – the initial series of these shells was produced in 1974 and it proved that with it, the Jackson can penetrate the armor of then-modern tanks at two kilometers (the penetration was cca 300mm of armor). It took 1,5 seconds for the shell to traverse this distance with very good accuracy, allowing the Jacksons once again to snipe at enemy tanks while being out of range of enemy guns. The ammunition was produced in the “Pretis” factory near Sarajevo and was soon issued to the M47 and M36 units.
Since mid 60′s, the Jacksons were attached to combined arms units, equipped also with ATGM’s – at first, those were the Soviet first-generation 2P26 Shmel missile launchers, replaced in the 70′s by the Malyutka sets. The thawing of the relations between Yugoslavia and Soviet Union during the “destalinization”, followed by purchases of Soviet equipment, seemed to spell the end of the M36 career, one Yugoslav document from 1967 includes the assessment that the M36 is obsolete and that it should be replaced by the towed Soviet 100mm M12 AT gun. This change indeed happened in the “A” divisions and the obsolete vehicles were moved to the “B” units (basically second-line units and reserves). The M36 persevered however and survived the great army upgrades of the 70′s and 80′s, simply because the Yugoslavs haven’t found anything better to replace them with – they especially valued the ability of the Jackson to support infantry. The Soviet T-12 100mm guns were more powerful, but given the fact they were towed, they had limited mobility compared to the Jackson. That’s why the Yugoslavs kept the Jacksons running and included some upgrades to boot.
In order to keep the vehicles in working conditions, the old obsolete Ford GAA V8 450hp engines were replaced with the engines from T-34/85 (V-2, producing 500hp). Furthermore, every imported American vehicle recieved an indigenous IR driver device M 63 for night driving. The Yugoslavs also considered replacing the Jackson (and the Hellcats and SU-100′s, which the YPA also had) with an indigenous tank destroyer/self-propelled gun, armed with the T-72 smoothbore 125mm 2A46 gun. This happened in 1980, but the proposal was scrapped in 1982. With any real replacement still missing, the Yugoslav M36′s were left in service until 1991, when the civil war started and so, decades after defeating the nazi armies, the old GMC’s went to war once again.
Civil War and Beyond
Practically all the parties, involved in the fighting, used these venerable machines as infantry support vehicles. They however were rarely organized as earlier (into batteries), as no massive tank incursions were expected anywhere. And so, the old YPA batteries were dissolved and single Jacksons (or pairs) were attached to infantry batallions, sometimes even to platoons. This in turn gave tactical units some very strong firepower, allowing them to batter the enemies into submission. The Jacksons proved themselves especially well in the mountaineous terrain of Bosnia and Herzegovina – their excellent gun elevation allowed them to shoot even at targets very high above in the mountains and on the ridges. These vehicles often carried applique armor – plates of reinforced rubber on their sides in order to protect them from HEAT shells.
After the civil war ended, the Jacksons were removed from service in Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia because of increasing obsoleteness, maintenance issues and breakdowns. A part of Jacksons from the Serbian stocks was sold to private collectors from the UK and the USA, who are often even today parading the vehicles with their original civil war paint on, including the Serbian tricolors and the rubber shields. The civil war Jacksons were often “decorated” with various inscriptions – this Serbian M36 has “Bjesna Strina” written on the turret (“furious aunt”?), the rear inscription says “Bjezhi, ujo” (D.Jovanovic claims it means “run, Ustasha”, referring to the wartime fascist Ustasha movement, other interpretation could be “run, uncle”).
During the last years of service in the Yugoslavian Army, batteries of 6 Jacksons were transferred to motorized/mechanized infantry brigades. The M36′s, located in Kosmet (Kosovo, Metohia) were used for fire support during the quell of Albanian uprising in 1998-1999. After the NATO air raids started against Serbia in 1999, these vehicles, as well as other armor, were dispersed into forests and hidden. The only losses incurred were when moving – one A-10 Thunderbolt II destroyed one M36 from the 125th Motorized Brigade on the road from Pec to Djakovica. Another M36 from the 243th Mechanized Brigade broke down on 17.4.1999 on the road near the town of Vitina (southern Kosovo). A repair vehicle, one truck and one BOV armored car were dispatched to recover it, but the weather cleared and the NATO pilots spotted the effort, attacking immediately – the operation was disrupted and the M36 Jackson was lost.
The last operation of the Jacksons took place between 2000 and 2001, when they took part in the Serbian operations against Alban terrorists in southern Serbia. They were used from cover, shelling the OVPBM positions (OVPBM – “Rebel Army of Preshevo, Buyanovec and Medvedje” was a guerrilla group, their goal was to secede the southern Serbia region and join Kosovo). The fighting got especially fierce in the village of Lučani, where the Serbian special police forces controlled a part of the buildings and the other part was controlled by the guerrillas, who were very well dug in. Since the rebels had a large number of RPG’s, the Serbians directed the Jackson fire at long distances, shelling the hideouts. These were probably the last shots ever fired in anger from weapons manufactured during WW2. The insurgency ended in June 2001 by disarming the guerrilla group. The Serbian army’s reaction was building a chain of bases in southern Serbia in order to monitor the people movements there – these bases were also equipped with Jacksons.
The reorganization of Serbian army in 2004 saw most of the remaining Jackson units disbanded and the rest of the surviving M36′s was pulled from service in 2005 (at that point, the army still had 203 surviving Jacksons). Unfortunately for collectors and such, the decision what to do with the vehicles was very swift – they were cut to pieces and sold for scrap, a sad ending for the vehicles, weathering the storms for decades and surviving a civil war.
Sources:
A.Radic, D.Jovanovic – M 36 Jackson – Šest desetiletí služby na Balkáně (HPM 2/2008)
I.Pejčoch – Obrněná technika
www.valka.cz
www.srpskioklop.paluba.info
Gief moar Jackson upgrades in WoT, pl0x? 500HP engine will do nicely.
Lol, you mean the Ford GAA engine that ALL M36s that rolled out of the factory in WW2 had but for some reason, is not present in WoT? Yeah.
They don’t want to make the Jackson have more HP than the popular Hellcat, of course! So many people will get butthurt if Jackson gets moar HP than their ol’ F***cat :D
Serbs response to that is probably “how terrible”.
The info was pitched The_Chief’s way well over a year ago and is on the to-do list for the general American rebalance
Of course this rebalance is about as vaporware-ish as the expanded French tree at this point
t8 premium td, m36 with 300mm heat pen, how terrible :D
“they were cut to pieces and sold for scrap, a sad ending for the vehicles, weathering the storms for decades and surviving a civil war.” awwww :(
“The first units to be equipped with the Jacksons were those units, who would be potentially facing the Soviet invasion.”
Actually no. All tanks sold to Yugoslavia by US were supposed to be placed in Croatia and Slovenia, to protect western europe’s border (italia, austria, switzerland).
moar pics of helkets in balkan wars:
http://www.srpskioklop.paluba.info/m18/opis.html
Actually no again – they were placed in Croatia and Slovenia in order to be able to counter-attack Soviet thrust in Slavonija and Ljubljana gap.
imho, there would be no counter-attack. Russian t-55s would stop after they reach gulf of biscay, english channel, spain…
because of Russia stronk right? :)
Those were the plans, anyway. Coupled with clearing western strongpoints with nukes.
stronk american tank
it was not a civil war , it was serbian aggression on croatia and they tried to claim croatian teritories , they claimed that even cities like zadar and dubrovnik are serbian ground witch is apsolutely crazy. so we kicked their ass and send them back where they came from. simple as that.
which is not the point of this article
pls delete this comment before shit kicks in
Someone’s feeling very patriotic.
Lets not start that discussion here please.
SS please delete these comments before all shit breaks loose…
i am just stating that is wrong data. what happened in ex-yu cannot be called a civil war and thats a fact
Its wrong data based on your opinion, and saying stuff like “so we kicked their ass and send them back where they came from. simple as that.” is plain wrong, ITS NOT SIMPLE AS THAT! It was a fucking war, wars are rarely simple. And the Ex-YU war is not something either of our nations should brag about, both sides did terrible war crimes and both suffered and still suffer because of that war!
The International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia seems to have convicted leaders on all sides of the Yugoslav wars of war crimes, so no side has anything to be particularly proud of.
RIP all the dead human beings killed by fellow human beings.
Looking at these wars from hundreds of miles away, they look like a civil war, because it is the breakup of Yugoslavia and so SS is right to use the term as that is how it appears to most outside readers.
The fact that the countries that have been created out of those wars have tiny populations e.g 4 million or 7 million, which are smaller than many cities in larger countries, makes the loss of human life involved all the more tragic.
So by your logic Serbs did not live in Croatia?….By the way Dubrovnik was not Croatian city neither. It was republic of Ragusa for most of the time. After that it was part of Italy and Austria-Hungary empire but it was never part of Croatia. DURING World War II, Dubrovnik BECOME part of the Nazi-puppet Independent State of Croatia, occupied by the Italian army first, and by the German army in 1943……So it is totaly crazy that today Dubrovnik, Istra and entire dalmatian coast belong to Croatia….All that land belong to Italians…. Read the history dipstick….
Nice fantasy. Except that countries’ borders in the modern world are made according to the ethnic groups, not history. And Croats came to Istria,Dalmatia and Dubrovnik in the 7th century. The fact that Venice controlled thos areas is a consequence of a weak Hungarian ruler who sold Dalmatia to the Doge of Venice. That doesn’t mean that rhose areas were Italian. Get your facts straight.
The article is great, very informative and the best thing is it’s not even touching the “reasons of the civil war” question as it shouldn’t. The post is about the Jackson TD and not politics. So please SS, delete this whole section of comments before nationalists and “patriots” start raging over each other.
And again, a very detailed and nice read. Keep up the good work
“one A-10 Thunderbolt II destroyed one M36 from the 125th Motorized Brigade on the road from Pec to Djakovica. ”
Huh, i can almost hear a conversation between pilot and ground control:
-HQ, HQ… i just destroyed one enemy armored vehicle….
-Roger that, could You describe a target, was it MBT?
-Eeeeeh….. You wouldn’t believe if I said You a truth…
pilot: Shit, I will get less exp for destroying sock tier6 td
HQ’s reply: Sealclubber.
One note, in 1974 M36s hot new 90mm M74 HEAT ammo capable of penetrating 300mm@0deg (150mm@60deg) that gave it possibility of effectively fighting T-55/62 grom any aspect and newer tanks from a flanks.
“Bjesna strina” is “Furious aunt”, that’s correct, but “Bježi, ujo” would better be translated as “Run, uncle”. Ujo’s short for ujak, which means uncle. :D
Well corrected the article just to be sure.
CharlieTheDingo, you are wrong.
“Bježi, ujo” does in fact mean “Run, Ustasha”. “Ujo” is short slang for Ustasha, same as the Croats would use “Čedo” (Chedo) for Chetniks.
During the Yugoslav wars, old WW2 issues resurfaced. So, all Serbs were called “Chetniks” by Croats, all Croats “Ustashe” by Serbs, and both sides referred to Bosnian muslims as “Balije”, or “Turci”…
^^This is correct
SS, there is male name in Balkan Jugoslav (Yugoslav) so whenever you write Yugoslav it’s funny :) :) :)
Braco Hrvati, stvarno ste ista govna kao i mi Srbi, stoga serem se prvo nama Srbima u usta jer smo govna, a onda se serem i Vama Hrvatima u usta jer ste govna!!! Da budem demokratican, Bosanci su isto govna kojima se serem u usta, kao i Slovenci, Crnogorci i Makedonci, svi smo ista govna i svima nam se serem u usta, jer dok zvacemo govna i gutamo ih NEmozemo da lupetamo gluposti jedni o drugima.
Za kraj, pomocu creva se specijalno serem samom sebi u usta jer ja jesam najvece govno na ovim prostorima, te dobijam duplu porciju govana da se dobro najedem i da prestanem da lupetam gluposti…
Samo vi izjednacavajte krivnju. A Hrvati ne misle za sebe da su govna pa pricaj u svoje ime.
Totalno bespotreban post. Nisi nista korisno rekao a nalupao si gluposti i uvredio sve nacionalnosti koje si spomenuo i samim tim izazvao “patriotske” komentare kao sto je Dongfeng-ov (mislim samo na prvu recenicu)…
Just a little note, Silent: sh=š, zh=ž, ch=č/ć (depends on the spelling), dj=đ. IIRC you have those letters as well on your keyboard.
“Beži ujo” WTF?!?! “Run, uncle”?
Considering the fact that most readers are not slavic, writing stuff like “ž” and “š” would probably not help non-slavs realize how it is pronounced.
true that!
Look at how it gleams in the pictures! Looks like a model! WG should fix this model ASAP, to make it more real!
Oh, it’s photos.
“Furious aunt” => “Run (away), uncle”
Makes perfect sense to me, heh.
>These were probably the last shots ever fired in anger from weapons manufactured during WW2
Wasn’t the Syrian “opposition” to Assad inexplicably armed with a large number of vintage STG 44 assault rifles?
Lee Enfields also show up in conflicts all over the world, Mosin Nagants too, both notably in Afghanistan.
Not to mention the M2 .50 cal is still used by many modern, standing armies.
I assume the article means heavy weapons? AFVs?
I would have thought so, they certainly have a shorter off the shelf life than small arms!
My father served on one of these during the war.
And yes “Bježi Ujo” does mean “Run uncle!”, but the “ujo” is short for “Ustaša”, which the Serbs called the Croats during the war …
SS i noticed that you written abbreviations 1 time in Serbo-Croatian and 1 time in English.Military technology institute you shortened to VTI which is a abbreviation of VojnoTehnički institut and Yugoslav People’s Army u shortened to YPA but in Serbo-Croatian it is Jugoslovenska Narodna Armija – JNA.It would be nice if u made it consistent by shortening both in the same language preferably the original Serbo-Croatian.
I am disappointed. If you could not write accurately about Yugoslav Wars the you should have kept it out of article.
There were four wars related to the dissolution of Yugoslavia and NONE were civil wars.
Even a superficial google search would show a completely different result than what you wrote.
That’s debatable – a war, where the participants are all members of a (non functional/dissolved) state is still civil, regardless of the ethnicity. Take the Syrian civil war for example, it’s still called civil war despite some parties claiming authonomy and some parties being ethnically different from others.
My friendly suggestion, don’t go there :P
But for technical clarification(Croatia side):
It was civil war in Yugoslavia until Croatia declared it’s independence, which came into effect on 8 October 1991 .
After that, technically you have two wars in Croatia :
One) civil one, with rebelled Croatian Serbs inside Croatia
Two) international war (aggression), since JNA (Yugoslav army) kept it’s forces active and fighting in Croatia till late ’92.
BUT there were attacks on Croatia from Bosnia too, and Croatia had its troops in Bosnia too (which were legally there only after treaty in ’95) and no official hostilities were ever announced.
I suggest deleting all posts regarding this issue (including mine), because they will lead to another internet crusade :D
Cheers!
P.S. Awesome job you’re doing
What a war is called by propaganda and what it is, is almost never the same thing, and this was especially true in this case.
Former member states of Yugoslavia have legally seceded therefore any use of a term civil war is propaganda.
It was a civil war. But for political reasons it is often not considered as such in some parts of ex-Yugoslavia.
The only ex-member of Yugoslavia that might be clinging to the notion that it was a civil war is Serbia. But you can claim whatever you want.
SS, however u write it, some will say it’s a correct and some that it’s an incorrect term (about the war). No use even trying to make sense with the people overlooking a huge article about a vehicle and focusing on one sentence with their political and nationalist views (no matter the side they’re on). Please delete all comments about that or you will have a, let’s be politicaly correct here, “however-u-want-to-declare-it” war in the comment section
A politically correct guy(facts be damned) is here…. ew.
300mm pene with HEAT? yes pls :)
M431 HEAT-T.
Fin-stabilized HEAT-T round that was availavle to M47 crews as early as the mid-50s. Could penetrate a T-54 frontally anywhere, but had issues fusing at steep angles.
Velocity from a 90mm M36 was 4,000 feet/sec..
Nasty, awesome round…
Actually, no, M431 could not be used from M3A1 gun on M36 due the muzzle break fucking up fins on it.
Only in early ’70s muzzle breaks were removed and M74 HEAT introduced.
so proud that silentstalker mention my country.serbia and montenegro.
Ex-country. :)
for me its still the same country!!!
It still baffles me that after YEARS, the M36 still doesn’t have the Ford GAA, an engine that is present on the M4A3E8 just across the tech tree…
I can’t even count anymore the number of times the M36 was supposed to get the Ford GAA, but it’s never happened, and it’s just staggering.
Wargaming can go through the tedious process of dreaming up vehicles, modeling them and putting them ingame, but they can’t give the M36 the engine it historically had…
Bravo, guys.
Old tanks left to rust near Banja Luka (poligon Manjaca)
http://www.oklop.byethost14.com/manja%C4%8Da/album/#
“…when the civil war started and so, decades after defeating the nazi armies, the old GMC’s went to war once again.”
That line made me very, very sad. Paraphrasing a famous quote:
“Men… Men never learn…”
Except your quote gives no results.
And I appropriate quote IMO is; “War. War never changes.”
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_intro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niJqhQIF4v0
At 0:50 thers a Cro M36 firing
And the story is about a Croatian T-55 making a war ship run(actuly after the sacend shot it was on fire) ;)
http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=191757&ord=0&page=2
A cool page a faund
Druže Tito,mi ti se kunemo! :D
Im from Bosnia and in my town there is a repaired one which our brave soldiers captured from the serbian četnik SCUM!