Author: Juuso ‘Kantti’ Marttila
As a small nation, Finnish Armored Forces resorted mostly to captured or bought equipment. They still had one unique vehicle that should prove interesting to WoT players and could easily be seen implemented in the game. This vehicle was the BT-42, an improvised Finnish Assault Gun.
In order to add more firepower to their armored Brigade – mostly equipped with obsolete T-26s, the Finnish army resorted to indigenous improvisation. Finnish troops had captured a plethora of BT-7s which couldn’t be put into use as such, but they were erroneously deemed suitable as platform for a new improvised assault guns, the BT-42. In total, 18 captured BT-7s were converted to BT-42s from 1942 onwards. In Valtion Tykkitehdas, they were fitted with a new turret, that shared some likeness with the dreaded KV-2, although it could be only barely called armored.
Blueprints of the turret
KV-2-like look was even more clear after the guns were installed. They were the British Q-F. 4.5 inch Mk II howitzers, that had been donated by the British to the Finnish army in the Winter War. Finnish called this gun 114Psv.H/18 (114mm tank howitzer).
Likeness to KV-2 is curious, although BT-42 lacked almost any armor protection. How overgrown can a BT be?
A drawing from Tankomaster magazine
Even if BT-42 performed well in both indirect and direct fire against infantry and pillboxes, it proved to be ill-suited against any enemy armor, even after they were provided with indigenous Finnish version of HEAT ammunition. These tanks were mechanically even more unreliable than the original BT-series due to added weight. Vehicle had balance problems and the silhouette of the vehicle was tall, making it an easy target – a weakness that was complemented by weak armor (6 to 16 mm). As a nail to the coffin, the turret was partly riveted, so even non-penetrating hits had considerable chance of making rivets bounce inside the turret. Also, the rear doors were so thin that the vehicle was vulnerable to even some infantry weapons. Ammunition was loaded in two parts (like with Soviet 122mm), which reduced the RoF considerably and resulted in difficulties in ammunition storage. Also, the velocity of the shell was horribly low. The tank also lacked machine gun for defense against infantry.
BT-42 from behind. Notice the large doors, which were really thin and provided no real protection.
Even if the BT-42s were seemingly obsolete in 1944, they were still kept in service in Separate Armour Company. As they couldn’t be brought into front line fighting, they were added to the garrison of Vyborg, second largest city in Finland and only larger city in the vicinity of the frontlines. Red Army reached outskirts of the city on 19th of June and started its heavy attack on the city itself in morning of the 20th. The BT-42s were hurried into battle, but were both outmatched and heavily outnumbered by T-34s, IS’s and other more modern, rather heavily armored tanks. Few BT-42s managed to engage the T-34s and scored plenty of hits, of which none did any damage. This might have been partly due to somehow faulty HEAT ammunition, as in tests those shells had been able to penetrate 100mm of steel at 70 degrees. As panic spread amongst the ill-prepared defenders of the city, the BT-42s disengaged to cover the withdrawal and many were abandoned by their crews. The city, that was thought to be a part of the next main line of resistance fell in one day and a couple weeks later, the BT-42 was officially declared as obsolete and remaining tanks were withdrawn from service. It is sad that we don’t know how the vehicle would have performed as a SPG, providing indirect support, but as an assault gun, it proved to be a total failure.
Destroyed BT-42 of the company commander Stig Sippel in Vyborg:
Weight: 15 tonnes
Crew: 3 (commander, driver, loader while commander takes care of gunnery)
Armor: 6-13mm on hull, up to 16mm on turret.
Engine: Mikulin M-17T (500hp)
Speed: 53 km/h
BT-42 in World of Tanks
BT-42 would fit well into World of Tanks both as a SPG and TD, as many real-life SPG’s have already been implemented as such in WoT. As SPG, it would offer extremely high speed (comparable to Bat-Châtillon series arties) for a low tier SPG, which might prove a problem. In fact, it would be quite close to FV304 in performance. A bit slower, but would enjoy a turret. Even the armament would be same (Q-F 4.5-in is already implemented in game and FV304 has it!). As FV304 is already considered one of the most overpowered (and one still fun to play!) artilleries in the game, it is highly unlikely that a turreted version of such speedster arty would be added into game. As mentioned, another option would be add the tank as TD, that would be well in line with its intended role. As a TD, its gun’s damage of 450 would make it rather similar to 105mm howitzer, used by many TDs at tier 4 and 5. It is hard to assess if it should be tier 4 or 5 vehicle. It has paper thin armor, high profile and lacks a gun with any reasonable penetration (57mm with HE, something around 100mm with HEAT, if we presuppose that Finns got their HEAT working in combat situation) but on the other hand, it has good top speed, incredible hp/ton ratio and turret (albeit a slowly turning one). Depending on balancing (hp’s, soft stats etc.), it would make a great and rather unique t4 or t5 TD (think of a T49 with a derp gun!)
As there are no reasonable upgrades and available modules for the tank, it would best serve as a premium tank. BT-42 would fit nicely either in the European branch or Soviet branch (due to the origin of the BT-7). It would be a great occasion for Wargaming developers to add an interesting, different and historical vehicle to World of Tanks.
Käkelä, Marskin nyrkki.
War diaries of Separate Armour Company.
Arty is cancer to WoT, so hell no!
Still waiting for 204mm gun BT-7 with rubber tracks :D
Man I’d LOVE to play it as an arty ;)
eh? arty is no problem if you fire and move. its going to be your problem if you always camp or sit in a hole feeling like a soldier safe in a foxhole
Offer it as a Finnish Premium, It works.
Put it as a KV-2 light tank version as the upcoming T49 will be. People would definitely dig derpy light tanks!
Silentstalker are you sure this thing is not KV2 grandfather from Finland ? lol
Unfortunately KV-2 is older design than this piece of beauty. ;)
Turreted Bert? F*** YEAH!
BT-42 is one of those ‘dream on’ vehicles you’d hope to be better as it really was. Another example of these is a tier 6 KV-2 which actually made it to the game.
I’d say BT-42 could be a tier 3 premium vehicle as a TD and tier 3-4 premium vehicle as an SPG. The gun is too bad for tier 5. Finnish Stug III could be a tier 4-5 vehicle.
Tier 6 KV-2 a ‘dream on’ tank? Pfft. It was moved to Tier 6 as a nerf; it used to be Tier 5. So it was very, very effective in those conditions (you might even argue too effective) and still is very effective in the current conditions. Heck, even Tier 7s are weary of a KV-2 when they see one.
Yes, but in reality the tank’s turret was so difficult to operate it made the whole tank pretty much useless.
I hope well see this vehicle in game. I would prefer TD because theres already too much arty in this game.
theres too many tds you mean. Artys one branch. and they cant aim for nothing i perfer dealing with artillerly over the tds. as tds have the aiming speed to kill you while an arty cant.
It may will perform like the FV304 but with a turret?Hell yeah i want it in the game!.
SS,do you also own and play the FV304?Because it seems you are.
Bert V2.0 ?
I hope it will be a prem arty if it make it into game. Currently there are no prem artys available in the shop (i dont count sexton I as prem!)
how overgrown can a tank with Christie suspension be? if you count BT, a T-34-85. if you count the suspension, maybe a friggin Merkava?
speaking of BT tanks…..
PopSci article about a BT going 104 MPH, which is approx. 167.372 Km/H. That’s faster than a Hellcat O_o
This little bastard will probably be the death of me, i own an FV304, and putting the BT-42 in the game would be an insult, especially at tier 5. Even with a slow ass turret, and a huge silhouette, that thing would just be OP, Bert, which lacks a turret, is crazy enough, unless real serious nerfs are put into this thing, like god awful manoeuvrability or horrid range (400m or something like that). Even then- no i do not want this thing, this bastard, roaming around my battlefield, regardless how nerfed it is >:(. That is if it would be an SPG.
I can see WG adding the BT-42 as a premium SPG. They have to find something to sell in order to off set the loss of income with the forthcoming nerf to the FV304. As a premium, WG would not have to worry about whether or not a player would grind the line rather than buy gold for free experience. Forcing players to purchase the arty as a premium would be a winning scenario for WG. After all, it’s all about the money.
So in WoT terms, this is basically a light tank equivalent of a KV-2?
KV-152 was a modified KV-1s tank able to fit the 152mm S-41 short-cannon
Go stuff your photoshop pictures into your malicious places, we want facts, not fakes.
“*Photomanipulated KV-85 tank with SU-152 short-cannon” in the end of the description….