Hello everyone,
as you know, I am not exactly a fan of War Thunder and as such, I do not follow their video channel unless someone sends me an e-mail (thanks, Ed Francis) with “you gotta see this, this is cool”. And, as such, I missed this amazing video ad as well and it’s a damn shame, because if there’s one thing Gaijin is really, really good at, it’s making these videos.
THIS is how you make ads, Wargaming. Not the retarded IS-6 video.
its 2 months old SS
Hence the “I missed this amazing video” part.
Also check out even older “Heroes” WT video, I liked it more that this one :))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sfA-NsbzJY
Nice cinematics, though I allawys appreciated more the ingame footage trailers.
Wargaming could learn a thing or two about the story behind the movies they make :)
As a general rule, the better the trailers, the shittier the game.
Personally, a nice trailer is good in all. But, game should focus more on the game itself because, the players themselves would promote the game if it is good.
Too bad their game play didn’t resemble their videos, ;)
Did anyone ever notice how these Russian Video game companies love to use the Germans for advertising, but in game, most of the time there completely unhistoric……for balancing purposes, lmao.
For example, Wargaming.
Loves to use the Tiger in adds. Very common piece for them. But when you start to play the game, a Tier 6 Russian tank has 250- 390 damage guns. The Tiger, One of the most important tanks in Warfare, does 240 damage in WOT and often misses or bounces in Warthunder.
The WG tank is at least playable. Warthunders Tiger is a complete Fail. Looks better but is a complete waste of time, imho.
But they love to use em for advertising.
“YOU WILL FIGHT BACK”
Impossible in WoT, because: “XVM says we lose, so no point in trying.”
just uninstal XVM, every game will be a suprice!
That’s not me, I consider five purples in enemy team a challenge – and I have win chance turned off :)
it does not matter if you have XVM, or not, most battle is a fucking one-sided roflstomp. I currently collecting battle outcomes, and lots of them are 15-5 roflstomps, will post the results in forum if i reach 100 battles. (currently i have 61)
Don’t bother because nobody cares.
Yea, what do you plan to do with this data? Do you really think they don’t monitor their own game data?
I bet you like it when your on the 15 side, lol. I do agree with the xvm argument. I mean if you have black team, and they have a rainbow team, yea, your gonna loose. But when these guys give up on a 40pct chance, that really sux for me.
Is it just co incidence that the worst color is black……..? lol.
well go to a random school and ask a math teacher why, in a system of 15 vs 15 with elimination a result of 15-5 is just what you should expect as normal. (Little tip: with every tank that dies you also lose a gun and therefore dmg potential, which makes it even easier for the enemy to kill the next guy, which will result in an additional lose of a gun and dmg potential and make it easier again for the enemy to strike.)
i still think xvm should be banned!
it isn’t fair for the enemy to hunt down the best players instead of the tanks they specifically should!
or at least to get a mode that will block xvm view on you!
Well, if you’re good enough to stand out, than you should have no problem dealing with those who try to hunt you down. And if you are having problems because of that ( yes dear statpadders with bullshit stats, we are lookin at you guys ), than maybe you don’t deserve to stand out soo much, and you’re being punished for that. By the way, it works both ways. There are cowards who just try and not get in any kind of fight with very good players.
You know there is an ancient saying: Bullshit might take you to the top, but it won’t keep you there.
and you will get your corageous resistance while the rest gets their crappy xp :P
Nope. You will do shitloads of damage and get several kills and still get sod all, while some scrub that hid at the back scratching their nuts will randomly get some medal giving them the courageous resistance.
i hope they ban XVM! wot will become a better game then.
the thing is, that WoT is more oriented to kiddies than WT, therefore there are no people in their ad materials, which is stupid, but they are obsessed with ratings and pretending, that WoT is violence free (and ignoring the filth filled chat :-)).
Yes, I agree.
Despite what WG say, the principal reason for no humans in WOT is not to get a better rating. It’s is mainly because they don’t want to expend the resources required to portray humans.
WT is 12+, WOT is 7+. It’s rather unlikely that 7 to 12 year-olds would offer a meaningful source of revenue.
In America they are both rated Teen (13+) which is absolutely ridiculous.Total War is rated Teen, and hundreds of thousands of people die in it!
War is kinda the national pasttime in the US though, it’s understandable. Now if there were a single semi-nude female, you’d be looking at AO
WoT and WT cater for different people, and neither of them are made for kids, and both will have the same age range of players playing both games.
Que?
As if WT arcade mode was made for a more mature or connoisseur crowd.
The only difference between WT tanks and WoT, is simulator battles. Those are the only that attract a more distinguished crowd than WoT. And those represent a tin fraction of the battles played.
you have missed the point. Humans in the advertisements – higher PG rating. Are you able to see human models in let’s say WoWP? No, but they are in the cockpits of WT planes… This is the difference. For a long time WoT was PG, or PG7 (don’t remember). Yes, of those two WoT is closer to the kiddie game, but that’s nothing bad – just a wider audience.
You can see human models in WoWP.
chuck norris driving that panther ? :D
Grigorij Saakaszwili
http://youtu.be/SIyoSffT__I?t=52m59s
whole race starts at 47:25
sure, but in wt the russian tank hit your german tank and knock out just one crew member “crew killed” and you can choose another tank :) and they said the wot rng is bull****
Really great trailer
if they only would spend as much time on the game as on the trailers
Do tanks still randomly get stuck on flat ground when going full speed?
da
yes, even though the tanks look amazing, it is way too buggy
TBh the trailers for WT ARE awesome, and WG certainly need to take a leaf from them.
I tried ground forces on the weekend and though very different to WOT I quite liked it. Also the graphics are much nicer and seem better optimised.
I simply don’t have the time to play both, and WOT has it’s teeth in me.
Video is 6/10 but game is 4/10 . Maybe Gaijin better make videos and not game , because tank part of War Thunder is garbage . War Thunder is even more boring than WOT with it gold shell spammers , sky cancer and shit balance .
Well i wont say that only because i play WoT for years, and i can say only 1 thing. Its shit now. Players are brainless, every new player already have T8 premium tank and dosent even know where to shot loltraktor… WT in other half if u have premade, its fun to play, u dont need to have premium to grind money like in WoT, without premium in WoT forget T10 tanks u will never have them, here is little different, u can play tiger and unlock tiger 2, panthers, jgpanthers and etc, or play I dont know in planes u play YAK9K and unlock MIGs. And last thing in WoT u need to carry every game or u will lose, in WT isnt like that, protect few bombers and cap, if u lose u still dont lose money soo yeah its little more funny than now for me boring WoT with his childish gameplay and going noob friendly game, well u can say that this 2 games will be like DotA and LoL.
Noob friendly game in which you have to carry every single match? Eh … that doesen’t make sense.
I agree with much of what you said, but to me WT is the casual kiddie game, not WoT. The elite part of WT is a small fraction of those who play simulator mode. The rest is one giant deathmatch arena in which nobody cares if you win or lose. And that’s with the planes. Don’t even get me started on the pointless tank mode.
are you shitting me?
“The rest is one giant deathmatch arena in which nobody cares if you win or lose” you just described WoT to a T….
WT is anything BUT casual kiddie game, from the unforgiving realistic DM to the real shell loadout(you can go out with 6 types of shell, how “casual kiddie” is that?!?!).
and who cares about WT planes, it’s all about tanks here.
you on crack son, woT is kiddie scum trash friendly, wt ain’t
Well everyone see it different, to me like old WoT player, game is now shit, too much premium tanks is first, playing without premium is pain in ass for sure. Tanks in WT still need a lot of changes but they are more realistic and you dont need to i dont know research tiger and now you can only with tiger research only tiger 2 like in WoT, you can play only that tiger and unlock every other tank in game, yeah it wont go fast but you can soo yeah its giant +.
The voice in Ad – is the same guy from TOP GEAR?
No it isn’t Jeremy Clarkson
It sounds like Micheal Gambon. If it is, he must have cost them a lot.
Sounds very like Gambon to me… although occassionally it’s “not quite right” so might be someone who sounds like him…
Holy fuck shit this is awesome!!
That Panther ramming reminds me of the modiefied Tiger(P) designed for ramming :D
the trailer is epic, too bad the game isn’t!
Can’t confirm this, game is very enjoyable.
to a certain point! it get’s boring too fast and too ridiculous at tank battles!
Well, Im not entirely sure about this but Gaijin, like most game companies, probably hire independent CG studios to produce trailers. Most decent CG trailers are made in this manner, as actual devs don’t have the time to record , animate and so on, considering they already do that for the actual game. Plus film/trailer CG has different requirements than video games. The dev studio(Gaijin in this case) probably pen down a script or a plan and they hand it off to a CG company.
WG on the other hand seems to produce their own videos for the most part..which is really dumb, because they are really not doing it well, and they have more than enough cash to afford it. Economy before quality, i guess.
This Videos really make me play WT more
Yeah, the other WT video SS posted made me try T-26 once more.
And sadly it’s still the same crap… *sigh*
The T-26 was never “AWESOME” though, even in real life…
To be fair, most pre/early ww2 tanks weren’t all too great.
I dont think there is a way to make WT more playable.
Maybe fix UI already ffs? Did they fix it?
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it’s always been playable, now with 1.43 even more, it’s better than ever.
what UI problems? i see none
don’t play T26, advance already, T28 is quite fun party bus
t-26? i had 9 kills in it once in one game. felt like kicking puppies while oneshotting pz IICs :/
and not a single russian vehicle was shown.
because it looks like normandy inavsion maybe?, you didn’t stop to think about that?.
where would soviet vehicles be there….
and then people cry soviet bias, retards
ok WT planes are way way way better than WG planes.
WT tanks just suck compared to WG tanks.
I mean even after the last major patch the games in WT tanks are in teams of 5-6 players. How fukin bad a game must be when there is not enough player for 2 teams at peak time after 5-7 minutes waiting time.
At first it was full teams. Then all went back to planes and WoT.
Alright, what mode you playing on and how many servers to you have turned on?
another one that talks shit and has no fucking clue.
funny hwo i play full teams with less than 10s wait every night on AB(EU+US).
SB always caters to specialists so unless it’s a weekend at prime RU time and you have all servers selected(sans SEA, because it’s a den of baddies) then yeah only 5 people will play it during the weekday
nice trailer…
But, Silent, to claim that WG makes no cool CGI trailers is misleading…
proof? :)
WoT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mClc12IDqhE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4O6Ik9SMrE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVmwO1jB9j4‘
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGwGSIIk6yo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkoGLP-gLuE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA2WCNMgW0w
WoWp:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WzLBkMkt8M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLoeFrRqNzQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC8zg6kAzNo
WoWs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_WEzzidUUI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMKURy3gExA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_mN7ZnlKqc
Well… I guess it depends on the definition of cool. For me, WoT trailers look like they have toys in them, not real tanks.
and anything that WG shows in their trailers has shit to do with the game itself hey’re all fake cinematic trash
whilst for gaijin trailers practically all that is shown can be accomplished ingame or is already there(shooting down attacker with your tail gunner whilst your plane is plunging to death prime example, combined arms with planes and tanks -and in future ships-, etc)
What are you talking about? things shown in wg videos cant be done? like shooting other tanks? like ramming or pushing out of bridges? If you cant do that in WOT then am rly sad for you :)
the ramming part was in the videos LONG before it was ingame.
i’m going to piece by piece all of the wot trailers posted before -leaving the graphics aside-
Gamescom trailer: since it’s new all it shows can be done ingame, nothing spectacular just tanks shooting eachother and some destroyed ones, prety conservative map (all the gaphics, ambientation and effects are bullshit)
Endless war: the one with at least 50 tanks in the end
2012 Gamescom trailer: SNOWING…, tiger 2 pushing railcar, T95 fires and RAILCAR CARTWHEELS ON FIRE and lands behind tiger 2 leaving tiger 2 intact, hahahah so much BULLSHIT
8.10 launch is all ingame footage, as it should always be
british tank trailer: littel brit tank FLYING THROUGH A RAILCAR and only partially breaking it
they are getting better and toning down the fantasy BS now in late 13/2014, but in 2012 it was complete bullshit, and some o the stuff shown still is.
i’m sad that you think WG videos have anything to do with the game…
as 2 year WT player. I can say one think. WT has good trailers bad gameplay. WT has bad trailers and good game play. WoT has alots of problems. but all problems are stable. And many times you can guess and solve problems with your skill&brain. (ofc not zombie lemmings..)
SS liked this vid and I know why. There are no Russians! lol
SS you can also read some stuff about how this trailer was created: http://warthunder.com/en/news/898-War-Thunder-Victory-is-ours-mini-movie-The-background-of-its-creation-en
As an old ex-WoT hardcore player and now a WT hardcore player I can say that both games can live together.
After WT 1.43 patch I’m enjoying my tanks and planes in new RB mixed mode. It’s fun like hell to drive a Tiger in WT:GF. And then a SPAA. And then some bomber/fighter. All in the same battle.
It’s the raging comments below that make me laugh….
actually after latest big patch of 1.43 i started to play again.
i think it’s much improved game play, still very different then wot but starting to be playable in a way that is good.
most important stuff added.
*after battle (tank dead) replay of how your tank got penetrated, very very nice, the shell travels and what it does.
*also armor viewer in hanger which shows you the layers of the tank and crew and stuff, very nice (like wot programmer wot inspector i guess) but free and inside the game.
*more cooperation in teams, basically it divides you into a platoon, and if you work together you get more stuff and achievement, it actually works 50% of the time… you see them as green.
*the thing in arcade mode that allows team to participate in air battle, like a vote system, if you click first you get to play as air plane for 30 sec for a short goal, turns out its very nice, i think it’s a success feature. (you don’t have to have the plane or crew for that aircraft and you have 3 roles)
*New maps, open and city…
*precepts, that allow you to build your pre-configured tanks/air plans and don’t have to change it all the time, just chose and play. very nice.
*destroyable objects
*graphic improvements and performance, the graphics are absolutely amazing indeed… which is nice one the game play improved… unlike WoT no lags and shit.
Agree with storm death x-ray this is simply useless crap.as long your armor models are broken like hell they are only animations on game. WT has no real calculations. Their damage model are so simple and really on to much dice rolls.. You are Gaijin fan boy or worker. Real player like us we already know how armor models are simply bullshit and broken. You cant compare wot versus wt damage models. Any play longer than one year know WT damage model no existent. orginal game engine and flight models didnt created by Gaijin. All come from IL2 series. Gaijin is only ruin core game. Adding endless grind and P2W elements whic far worse than WG….
and other parts like max 6km detection on team mate targets simply game broken. Gaijin worst company even they dont care test servers… WE cant even proper tests @ servers…
If you compare Gaijin vs WG. I can easly side WG is heaven compare gaijin epic fail hell. Both forum and games…
any body dont belive me plz look their steam charts. How they failed hard againts us. How many players forced leave game…. I really hate fucking heartless company called gaijin. Nearly worst @ MMO market…
steam chart
http://steamcharts.com/app/236390
sad that you didn’t read my post
after latest patch 1.43! before that i was playing like 1 battle/week,
and i’m a WoT fanboy BTW, i play every day.
i’m just happy that they improved and i can play another game with similar concepts thats all.
don’t understand this kids mentality of making a game a religion, this is very bad for you health.
peace, out.
well not everyone uses steam for WT… I mean I am not using Steam/Origin whatever whenever I can, and WT has its separate launcher.
not overone uses but why huge drops @ after fail patches… why epic fail after ground forces realese. i already know avarage total numbers @ prime times…
but steam is pure proff not my writings.
about zlig;
i dont belive your post have logic fail. only explation is lie. i can explainy many fail points but fighting workers is time lost. i cant earn anything..
Wow, how can a single person fit so much shit in their mouth?
To be honest I stopped reading your comment when you said “Gaijin fanboy/worker”. People who argue like that can’t provide valid points and constructive criticism anyways.
you wrote so much bullshit and crap that i don’t know where to start.
storm defends the shit they build obviously, and yes you can’t compar wot to WT models because WT destroys them, even with the bugs that they have SINCE ITS FUCKING OPEN BETA. dont forget WT implements METAL TYPE(rolled is not the same as cast) and TRUE THICKNESS, not the stupid “plane with value” that wot has
you cry about 6km detection and wot has a 400m drawing distance…
wg is fail hell for kiddie tards.
“real player like us” GTFO here son, you bring shame to the “real players” by spouting such drivel.
go away moron
this sounds like a WG employee
braindead, doesn’t know how to writes, defends shit game..
yeahp, sounds like one of those WG cover community morons/shills
It looks good, but at least WG uses actual in game footage. They just need to work a little harder
Which channel are you subscribed to? Latest WoT trailer was CGI just like most other trailers, too.
Not that it’d be a bad thing.
Obviously fake, Me-262s never fought B-17s in real life. They fought Sabers and MiG-15s! Just like in War Thunder.
Im a WOT fan too, but holly crap, these are amazing
1:15 they show an M16 before the American tree comes out. Atleast I think it’s an M16.
*insert slowpoke meme here*
seriously, they have another one out now too
The IS-6 video was just a timed badly IMO. Not only was it a crap video put together fast. They are selling a tank most got for free 6 months ago. And even if I did not get it back then. That video did not sell it for me :) Its just a video made for new players that don’t know how others are. Its like Mechwarrior online. Their videos are the same when a new premium mech gets out. Even if its crap, they can make it look awesome and suck the new players in. Then the next day you see 3 or 4 of em in a battle. And all of em are new players. And they die instantly. Not achieving anything said in the trailer.
I can see the headlines now:
“Business advertises products for sale, seem better than reality due to advertising skill”
You’re probably one of those people that think tampons give women the ability to skydive and surf
SS, what is this IS-6 video you speak of? I am curious.
Yeah, fucking amazing. The ground battles mode is still rough, unfinished. Just give it a few more months, it already progressed significantly since it was released.
Nah WoT have good cinematics too.
WT makes it more personal with putting fragile humans on tanks/ships and in planes.
Now if you can only pull that crazy Panther shit in-game.
That turetless Ram-Panther is OP.
I will say this about the WT cool videos. They are recruitment advertisements. That could mean that WT membership levels are not where they want it to be so they are making these expensive videos as a recruitment effort.
WG seems to be doing well with its lame videos, so one could assume that they have no problem with both recruitment and retention.
A company puts money where they believe that money will bring more bang for the buck. If WG believes that they don’t need WT-like videos, then that very likely means that they are comfortable with their membership recruitment and retention. I think that we would be seeing better videos if they believe that they need a huge recruitment effort.
i wonder ow many if anyone has PM’d SS the latest trailer…..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-J5Vg0SxLc&list=UUPZsNertSS82YCT2qX9-wHA
late to the party, there was a news about that already several days old
“Panther has evolved into Rammpanther!”