Source: http://world-of-ru.livejournal.com/3615224.html
Thanks go to the_komp for this batch of leaks :) Unfortunately, we still only have models and armor, no characteristics.
Source: http://world-of-ru.livejournal.com/3615224.html
Thanks go to the_komp for this batch of leaks :) Unfortunately, we still only have models and armor, no characteristics.
Sherman III have some pew pew in the nose :D
For some reason, they used early production hull for Sherman III…
I just like, why?
Same with firefly, why a Sherman I Hybrid hull? which was the least common version of the Firefly. Most Fireflys were converted from the M4A4 (VC) which was also the main Lend-Lease version of the Sherman.
For Sherman 1C, perhaps because all they need to do is to tweak current M4 model. Less effort for them.
At first i thought it because module sharing, but apparently that not the case so i am more inclined to above theory.
Perhaps it’s something to do with the future hull modules.
No excuse. The “real” hull should be first. Obscure ones come later…
You can’t really reuse the model between the two. in addition, these tanks were made using 3d scans of the real thing, so whatever mode they’re using came off a real tank. You’d have to figure out the history of the tank they scanned to get your answer. Pretty much every HD tank so far has been made using 3d scans of a real world version of the same thing. Until they start HDing the paper tanks, the ones that only existed in diagrams and whatnot, you can be pretty sure they’re basing these off real vehicles.
I would like to know where they found a Firefly IC Hybrid then, I don’t know of any that have survived to today.
http://the.shadock.free.fr/Surviving_Sherman_Fireflies.pdf
Tanks for the link, I’m even more surprised that most of them are not far from where I live :3
3D scans? What? Show me a source for that!
I think WG saved the M4A4 hull for later when the researchable hulls come in the very very far future. Same with Sherman III.
Perhaps , the most common theory about it.
Not possible. Historically, M4A4(Vc) was replaced by Sherman Ic Hybrid and it’s simply better.
Two Firefly IC fought with the 1st Polish Armoured at Normandy, all the rest (hundreds) of the Fireflys at Normandy were the Firefly VC model.
That said the Firefly IC is my favorite of the two, so I am happy with this.
Appy
There are a few stats, mostly armor and hitpoints
Stock turrets and gun models a presume?
i hope so , the firefly better have a muzzle break or i will be pissed.
cast hull and no muzzlebreak on the firefly……MUCH FAIL STRONK FAIL
These are stock setups, the gun on the Firefly is probably a 75mm M1A1 not the QF 17 pdr.
Also the reason for cast hull I think is that this will be the stock hull and the M4A4 hull is the upgraded when the researchable hull feature comes later.
Then they should have given it the M4A4 hull _now_ and the more obscure one later when the modular hulls come.
M4A4 is the “iconic” look for the Firefly. There’s no excuse to not do it. Absolutely none. Imagine if they had the Pz4 only have the Ausf. A hull even on the tier 5 one, or if the T-34 only had its prototype hull.
This is on that kind of tier of messing up.
I agree.
Nah, you guys shouldn’t choose a worse early hull.
M4A4 UFP: 51mm with two vertical driver port
M4 Hybrid UFP: 64mm one-piece cast
Agreed. I really hope that’s the stock gun. Even someone who isn’t generally familiar with historical tanks like me can see the difference between this and the 17lber.
that gun in the picture is to short to be the 17 lber
What the abject hell, the most common and important British Shermans were M4A4s, not these things.
Typical. They no doubt want British tanks to look stupid and imply they only ever had weaker variants. Hopefully this will get changed entirely before release to the M4A4, but I highly doubt it at this stage…
Christ, the Firefly is _ICONIC_ with the M4A4 shape. This makes no goddamned sense at all. It’s like only giving the Tiger II its original turret and not the second one.
Just google “Sherman Firefly” and you can see the ENORMOUS difference.
Not a Russian vehicle so the devs can do whatever they want as long as the RU players won’t make a fuss.
Cool story, bro.
Only its true. WG will move heaven and earth to adjust a Russian vehicle by millimetres days after its release if the RU forums complain.
Yet there are monumentally huge errors that British line players in the EU have been calling out again and again for over two years now that have yet to be fixed.
Watch this turn into another one.
Its true. As long as there 90% Rus playerbase dont care [and most dont since they hate NAto anyways and wish they could take sole credit for the victory] WG could give a shit.
Also, watch WG brag about them making this ultra “Rare” hull type.
“It’s like only giving the Tiger II its original turret and not the second one.”
Not really, just check the data and you would know Hybrid hull is a later design, plus you can see many of them on google.
I’m willing to learn. Do you have any reading material online you can link to regarding the differences and production?
You say above it’s 64mm, but the image of the tank armourzones has a 50mm area on the front instead. WG mistake?
There’s no firefly there. The firefly 17pdr had a mussel breaker. As well as a bit at the back to hold extra shells. It looks more like a half hearted conversion.
That would be muzzle brake and the box on the back of the turret held the radio set.
the tanks on these pics are all stock…
That’s what I was thought.
Firefly model shown here is with the stock turret for some reason. Top turret is the proper one I think
Unfortunately the hull isn’t right either way…
They only had what, 3-4 years to get one of the wars most important tanks right? Clearly not long enough.
They finally introduce a line that many people wanted, yet everyone still complains…
Because they’ve got one of the most iconic and important tanks in WW2 wrong in ways that even an amateur would laugh at. That’s why.
Can you imagine the rage if the T-34, Tiger, PzIV etc weren’t done right, had the wrong hull entirely etc? This is on that same tier of problem.
There is nothing wrong with the Sherman III or the Firefly IC. These are the stock configurations, Wargamming knows how to put long barrels on tanks, the upgraded version will be with the right turret and 17 pounder.
Sherman I, IC,II,III,V, and VC all fought at Normandy, Wargamming did not make a Mistake here.
Just relax.
Appy
http://web.archive.org/web/20010410003704/http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/8418/21agt-1.htm
“Wargamming knows how to put long barrels on tanks, the upgraded version will be with the right turret and 17 pounder.”
I didn’t say there was anything wrong with the turret or gun.
I said there’s something wrong with them, using what is a very dodgy looking hull as opposed to the one everyone recognises as a Firefly properly.
Wait … the bigger part of the frontal hull for the FIREFLY is only 25,4 armor?
Given they will reduce the mobility of the tank and the hull down capabilities by nerving the gun depression, it means this tank is going to face shit straight on and will suffer hard….
What the hell was I waiting for?
waited for WG to spit in our faces and demand more money.
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This comment section is so butthurt, I can taste the salt in the air.
I really had hoped for the Stuart V, the Stuart I is so much like the M2A4 and M3 Stuarts in the game.
The M3A3 Stuart V is very different, in looks and even has sloped armor.
Maybe when Alt Hulls comes…
Appy
IF they come that is. Very low priority.
The gun shown on the Sherman Ic is a US 76mm, guessing L/52 or L/55 maybe.
The gun shown on the Sherman III looks to be a US M3 75mm L/40
Im looking forward to racing across desert sands in the M3 “Honey” with the Brits 3 tone deser skin. Too bad we dont get a pennant and the 7th armored Jeroba emblem for front fender.
Given WG’s inability to deliver HD models in a timely manner for the current in game vehicles, we may see Hell freeze over before any alternate hulls show up. WG may decide to abandon alternate hulls all together with their usual, “It would confuse the players.”
i have a question what is it with America and lots of Machine guns ?