Hello everyone,
this is an intresting issue that I ran into while browsing the old German (and Czechoslovak documents). Not something big, but interesting. You might remember that some time ago, Wargaming changed the names of some vehicles by removing the “dash” – for example, the E-75 turned into E 75, E-100 turned into E 100. The reason for that – well, the alleged reason – was the historicity (as some of the primary sources, such as original documents from WW2, refer to the vehicles without a dash).
This was the case of the T-15 light tank as well. At some point, someone (I think it was Yuri Pasholok, but I am not sure) claimed that the T-15 designation was actually T 15, because it came up on some primary documents. Let’s have a look at it, because it’s usually more complicated than that.
First, there’s the original T-15 (I’m going to use the dash) blueprint from 1940. In it, the vehicle is designated as T15. No dash, no space.
So, that’s how the vehicle was designated then by the Germans? No, not really. At least, not always anyway. Here’s a German report about the same vehicle – this time, with dash.
And here is a post-war evaluation report. A space, no dash.
The moral of the story is… there is usually no “one” correct way to write a name, even if you were to rely on primary sources along (for example books generally mention the T-15 with dash). Various primary sources do it in various ways, here you have just an example of three of those and all are “correct”.
So the T-34 could be called the T 34?
Also FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The T-34 could be T 34 or even T34
but wich T34/T-34/T 34 we talking about? the russian med or the US HT?
Actually yes, there are documents that call it T34 or T 34, German and American both. In this case, the name is of course well-estabilished, which does not apply on obscure stuff.
WG isn’t very consistent with tank names anyway. Germans have Hetzer, Maus and Sturer Emil, British got Sherman Firefly and many of these new tanks designated like that. None of these are official names, right? Ok, maybe Maus is for the sake of Führer if you know what I mean, he wanted designations that way…
Well, slash, dash, space or not doesn’t even matter that much. It’s arcade game after all so the most important thing here is distinguish those exact tanks from each other. So I don’t think it’s worthwhile to check all those sources to get those dashes right. Not as long as we have Hetzer in game.
I think the US names are at least somewhat consistent, normally they don’t use the ‘-’.
T32, T34, T1 etc.
Classified as “Mission-Critical”! (uhm.. with Dash)
To distinguish between the Soviet one and the American one, I’ve always called the American one the T34 Heavy and the Soviet one the T-34
For me it’s much more interesting that Germans used “Š” character for Škoda in their papers. In my poor opinion it’s a sign of a respect for the Škoda brand!!!
Oh please don’t be so silly……MAYBE ? it is a sign they had a Typewriter designed to type in German text ……you know they did not have bubble jet printers back then ?
Well, the use of this one specific letter in this specific case may be an expression of respect… or correctness, who knows. For all I know, the craftsmanship of and machinery made by Škoda is held in high esteem in Germany, even today.
Are you talking about historic Skoda stuff or current cars?
People there just buy Skoda because they think it is the same stuff as in a VW and they feel VWs are overpriced.
Sure there may be some hardcore fans of the brand but not more than for others.
Well for cars there are Škoda series that actually have original VW engines and some other stuff, and its not that people only think they have them.
Also, i dont think that VW’s are overpriced.
Imo. (personal experience) Škoda and VW cars are both amazing, engines are great, durable… models look somewhat similar, but good…. i think we all could say they both make good, flexible, darable (durex) cars.
PS: im not expert on cars so dont reply with some insane details, keep it on normal person level.
It’s important to distinguish between Škoda car company (based in Mladá Boleslav and the succesor of Laurin&Klement brand, now a part of VW corporation) and Škoda machinery company (based in Plzeň/Pilsen, manufacturer of heavy machinery, turbines, electrical elements, tranformers etc.) These two have nothing in common today, just the name. One of the reasons why Škoda cars had to slightly change their logo in 1990ish because Škoda machinery is older and better established brand.
If Silent talks about Škoda, it’s almost always the heavy machinery company, not the car maker.
The report was most likely assembled by the BMM (Škoda) itself.
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