Shashmurin’s “Tank of Extreme Parameters”

Source: http://yuripasholok.livejournal.com/4230150.html

Hello everyone,

as it sometimes happens, Wargaming got hold of some of N.Shashmurin’s memoirs (files, five pieces). Nikolai Fedorovich Shashmurin was a Soviet tank designer, who was, amongst other things, involved in the development of IS-2 and IS-7. In his files, he referred to heavy tanks as “tanks of extreme parameters” (literally “limit parameters”, as in parameters reaching the limits of possibility). It was his opinion that these “extreme tanks” were to be the backbone of modern armored forces instead of the more common medium tanks. As Yuri Pasholok notes, his opinion was – given the fact that modern MBT’s evolved into what was considered a heavy weight category back then – completely reasonable.

Shashmurin’s memoirs and notes contained various tank proposals (including illustrations and drawings), one of which looks like this:

It’s called “Tank of extreme parameters /universal/”. The last vehicles Nikolai Shashmurin was involved with were the Object 286, 287 and 288 experimental rocket tanks (tanks, equipped with missile launchers instead of guns) – and so, it is completely possible that the guns of this vehicle is in fact a pair of rocket launchers…

25 thoughts on “Shashmurin’s “Tank of Extreme Parameters””

This tank has some Red Alert 1 wibe :D

SACEUR on February 13, 2015 at 2:08 pm said:

But WG has tossed around the idea of the ST-II which I think they said had two main 122MM guns. This fits right into their game plan. Heck, I’d get one, looks nice and the DERPY TROLL factor would be OFF THE CHARTS
- Evangelion242 on February 13, 2015 at 3:38 pm said:
  
  It would be a cool idea to introduce tanks with two main guns.
  
  WG could balance so that they works like (Normal reload but shoots from one gun at the time).
  Or (Long reload, bad accuracy and shoot both at the same time. For an example: Two 12,8 cm guns would do 2x 490 dmg, but long reload.
  Or just make it like a autoloader with two shots.
  
  But it would be cool with super heavy tanks like Maus with double guns.
  - Oberonium on February 13, 2015 at 4:02 pm said:
    
    No. There will be a special mechanic for multi-gun tanks.
exocet6951 on February 13, 2015 at 2:32 pm said:

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/crossoverrp/images/8/8d/Tank.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131229155707

And when you get 3 marks of excellence, you get access to nuclear shells, just like in RA:3 !

Soviet Russia stronk.
- Nya-chan Production on February 13, 2015 at 2:41 pm said:
  
  It was actually heavily hinted in RA2 already – Apocalypse tank with top level caused explosions which were similar to those.
  - Hustodemon Zewel von Lelek on February 13, 2015 at 5:36 pm said:
    
    indeed :D
    - Marvin Leek on February 14, 2015 at 9:57 am said:
      
      and the V3, rhino and just about any “cannon” in that game at “elite status”.
      multi turret: no too much work…….still works fine on WT though
      double barrel, still too much work, also works on WT.
      eeyup

*The guns of this vehicle …are…* plural.

S— of a B—–. Soviet OP. PLZ nerf.

If we can have MAUS then we can have this also. :-)

Next April 1st project?

Hey SS can you try to get some Information about the upcoming Events and the top of the tech tree Tank?
Would be Great!

Thank you for your time and the dayli news :)

Mao on February 13, 2015 at 3:01 pm said:

Next ToT is T-62A.
- Silentstalker on February 13, 2015 at 4:28 pm said:
  
  How do you know?
- Tobi_1989 on February 13, 2015 at 5:01 pm said:
  
  Doubt it, personally. T-62A was one of the last (if not THE last, can’t remember accurately enough) of original Top of the tree, so… too soon.
  
  I would really appreciate TotT for T57 heavy for example, would be reason for me to actually resume T21 and move the hell ot of that horribad excuse of a light tank, but with my luck if TotT: T57 came to WG’s mind they would make it exclusively for the other, “Tiny bugger>>another tiny bugger with useless autoloader>>Walker texas Bulldog>>KV-2 on crack” line…
  - Argysh on February 13, 2015 at 6:29 pm said:
    
    aaand… you were wrong. t-62a for ToT confirmed.
    - Tobi_1989 on February 13, 2015 at 6:31 pm said:
      
      Hmm… also good, time to grind some proper gun for my T-54

“For Historical Accuracy™ purposes we’re going to add yet another Soviet branch of a new class of vehicles called ‘Tank of Extreme Parameters’ or ‘TEP’, and for game balance reasons we’re going to nerf German tanks even more.”
-WG

Vixatious on February 13, 2015 at 6:19 pm said:

Please, go on, continue bitching.
The Forklifter on February 13, 2015 at 10:58 pm said:

The Germans are fine…

I can See it for me.. Next Step of Wargaming is add Weird / Crazy tanks into the game.. Just to keep the game feel that it offers something new in tank gameplay. Multi guns And Multi turrets… ohh yea..

Twin ML-20 guns pl0x. HUEHUEHUE 183 where is ur god now.

Fido on February 13, 2015 at 3:13 pm said:

Don’t get excited, 183 god is on the battlefield polishing 310 pene AP shells while this vehicle is on the paper
- Oberonium on February 13, 2015 at 4:06 pm said:
  
  You, of course, forgot that late soviet heavies was armed with 130 mm gun with shell speed up to 950 m/s. Which gives even more pen than 310 mm.
  This is furthermore reason why late soviet heavies are not appreciated in the game.

“…it is completely possible that the guns of this vehicle is in fact a pair of rocket launchers…”

Sorry, can’t really help it, but it just utterly reminds me of this:

http://i.imgur.com/W7CiHvN.png

Soviet sturmtiger is stronk with this one.

Hustodemon Zewel von Lelek on February 13, 2015 at 2:04 pm said:

This tank has some Red Alert 1 wibe :D
- SACEUR on February 13, 2015 at 2:08 pm said:
  
  But WG has tossed around the idea of the ST-II which I think they said had two main 122MM guns. This fits right into their game plan. Heck, I’d get one, looks nice and the DERPY TROLL factor would be OFF THE CHARTS
  - Evangelion242 on February 13, 2015 at 3:38 pm said:
    
    It would be a cool idea to introduce tanks with two main guns.
    
    WG could balance so that they works like (Normal reload but shoots from one gun at the time).
    Or (Long reload, bad accuracy and shoot both at the same time. For an example: Two 12,8 cm guns would do 2x 490 dmg, but long reload.
    Or just make it like a autoloader with two shots.
    
    But it would be cool with super heavy tanks like Maus with double guns.
    - Oberonium on February 13, 2015 at 4:02 pm said:
      
      No. There will be a special mechanic for multi-gun tanks.
- exocet6951 on February 13, 2015 at 2:32 pm said:
  
  http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/crossoverrp/images/8/8d/Tank.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131229155707
  
  And when you get 3 marks of excellence, you get access to nuclear shells, just like in RA:3 !
  
  Soviet Russia stronk.
  - Nya-chan Production on February 13, 2015 at 2:41 pm said:
    
    It was actually heavily hinted in RA2 already – Apocalypse tank with top level caused explosions which were similar to those.
    - Hustodemon Zewel von Lelek on February 13, 2015 at 5:36 pm said:
      
      indeed :D
      - Marvin Leek on February 14, 2015 at 9:57 am said:
        
        and the V3, rhino and just about any “cannon” in that game at “elite status”.
        multi turret: no too much work…….still works fine on WT though
        double barrel, still too much work, also works on WT.
        eeyup
rabiesdog on February 13, 2015 at 2:06 pm said:

*The guns of this vehicle …are…* plural.

S— of a B—–. Soviet OP. PLZ nerf.

If we can have MAUS then we can have this also. :-)
Colddawg on February 13, 2015 at 2:08 pm said:

Next April 1st project?
Skillcapped on February 13, 2015 at 2:13 pm said:

Hey SS can you try to get some Information about the upcoming Events and the top of the tech tree Tank?
Would be Great!

Thank you for your time and the dayli news :)
- Mao on February 13, 2015 at 3:01 pm said:
  
  Next ToT is T-62A.
  - Silentstalker on February 13, 2015 at 4:28 pm said:
    
    How do you know?
  - Tobi_1989 on February 13, 2015 at 5:01 pm said:
    
    Doubt it, personally. T-62A was one of the last (if not THE last, can’t remember accurately enough) of original Top of the tree, so… too soon.
    
    I would really appreciate TotT for T57 heavy for example, would be reason for me to actually resume T21 and move the hell ot of that horribad excuse of a light tank, but with my luck if TotT: T57 came to WG’s mind they would make it exclusively for the other, “Tiny bugger>>another tiny bugger with useless autoloader>>Walker texas Bulldog>>KV-2 on crack” line…
    - Argysh on February 13, 2015 at 6:29 pm said:
      
      aaand… you were wrong. t-62a for ToT confirmed.
      - Tobi_1989 on February 13, 2015 at 6:31 pm said:
        
        Hmm… also good, time to grind some proper gun for my T-54
EkV on February 13, 2015 at 2:16 pm said:

“For Historical Accuracy™ purposes we’re going to add yet another Soviet branch of a new class of vehicles called ‘Tank of Extreme Parameters’ or ‘TEP’, and for game balance reasons we’re going to nerf German tanks even more.”
-WG
- Vixatious on February 13, 2015 at 6:19 pm said:
  
  Please, go on, continue bitching.
- The Forklifter on February 13, 2015 at 10:58 pm said:
  
  The Germans are fine…
Darqviking on February 13, 2015 at 2:16 pm said:

I can See it for me.. Next Step of Wargaming is add Weird / Crazy tanks into the game.. Just to keep the game feel that it offers something new in tank gameplay. Multi guns And Multi turrets… ohh yea..
Nekommando on February 13, 2015 at 2:25 pm said:

Twin ML-20 guns pl0x. HUEHUEHUE 183 where is ur god now.
- Fido on February 13, 2015 at 3:13 pm said:
  
  Don’t get excited, 183 god is on the battlefield polishing 310 pene AP shells while this vehicle is on the paper
  - Oberonium on February 13, 2015 at 4:06 pm said:
    
    You, of course, forgot that late soviet heavies was armed with 130 mm gun with shell speed up to 950 m/s. Which gives even more pen than 310 mm.
    This is furthermore reason why late soviet heavies are not appreciated in the game.
Tobi_1989 on February 13, 2015 at 2:27 pm said:

“…it is completely possible that the guns of this vehicle is in fact a pair of rocket launchers…”

Sorry, can’t really help it, but it just utterly reminds me of this:

http://i.imgur.com/W7CiHvN.png
IOSYS on February 13, 2015 at 6:26 pm said:

Soviet sturmtiger is stronk with this one.