Source: FTR VK community
T37 Light Tank (US tier 6)
Stats for 100 percent crew
Weight: 23,380 tons
Hitpoints: 680
Viewrange: 390
Radio range: 745
Hull armor: 25,4/25,4/?
Turret armor: 31,8/25,4/?
Engine: 500 hp
Power-to-weight: 21,39 hp/t
Maximum speed: 66/22
Hull traverse: 48 deg/s
Ground resistance: 0,767/0,863/1,438
Gun: 76mm
Penetration: 150
Damage: 115
DPM: 2180,5
Reload: 3,164s
ROF: 18,961
Accuracy: 0,345
Aimtime: 1,82s
Depression: -9/+20
Turret traverse: 45,9 deg/s
T49 Light Tank (US tier 8)
Weight: 22,628 tons
Hitpoints: 1100
Viewrange: 400
Radio range: 745
Hull armor: 25,4/25,4/?
Turret armor: 38,1/15,9/?
Engine: 550 hp
Power-to-weight: 24,31 hp/t
Maximum speed: 72,4/24
Hull traverse: 44 deg/s
Ground resistance: 0,767/0,959/1,63
Gun: 152mm
Penetration: 152
Damage: 700
DPM: 1904.3
Reload: 22,055s
ROF: 2,72
Accuracy: 0,575
Aimtime: 3,45s
Depression: -10/+20
Turret traverse: 45,9 deg/s
152 penetration of 152mm gun?
GOSH….!!
I mean originally it was supposed to fire missiles, I guess this is an okay design choice.
This will hurt AMX:s in team battles!
AMX 13 is above average scouter anyway, it eats any other scout for breakfast, I’m always pro-frenchie but this thing needs at least a counter in the game.
With 700 damage, aren’t those HEAT shells or someting?
Actually it’s HESH .
You can check HESH Icon from Tank Inspector screenshot.
http://vk.com/ftr_wot?w=wall-24571337_1121
That looks like HEAT to me – HESH just looks like an ordinary HE round, with the orange stripe
I mean HEAT , my mistake ;)
Another screenshot about guns of T49 light tank
http://vk.com/ftr_wot?w=wall-24571337_1121&z=photo-24571337_339183968%2Fwall-24571337_1141
wow wow wow NO! just NO WarGaming the real 152mm heat round goes threw 7″ (177.8mm) of armor @ 60 degrees!
14″ 355.6mm @0 degrees !
And the HEAT shells for the Soviet D-10T series of guns can in reality penetrate about 450mm of armor, it’s a game balance choice to somewhat nerf the HEAT from its real properties. Many US tanks have already been gold spam easy modes in the past due to blatantly OP HEAT shells (M4 with the 105, T69) which eventually required major nerfs after the tanks were implemented.
T49 ‘light’ tank, Here I Come!
Oh God that derp gun on light tank with -10 depression :D
I’m trying to understand how in the holy hell can that small tank, while housing a 152mm gun, pull off such a large depression value!?
There goes my “At least it’ll have shit depression” consolation.
Fucking WG with their gimmicky tanks.
It isn’t gimmicky. The 152mm gun it mounts is a howitzer, not a true cannon. It doesn’t need nearly as much space as a true cannon does to recoil. The 10 degrees of gun depression is possible, since the howitzer is such a low velocity gun and most of the recoil is bought by the turret mounting rather than any recoil system on the gun itself.
It’s a “thrower”, the weapon is intended for missiles so it has very short gun breech, that’s how it pulls of -10 gun depression. I expect it to have very slow shell velocity because of that.
Personally, I don’t know if I will be using the 152 mm HEAT-slinger. I’m going to guess that penetration is either AP or some special HE shell. I think I will stick to a possible regular AT-gun :)
Earlier Leaks revealed that it had a 910 Damage HE shell with 76mm of penetration.
T49 looks like a lot of fun. But really the 59-16 needs a buff. All other t6 lts outclass it by far.
Oh and that 152 seems to be AP only…
The 59-16 has insane DPM and the crappy pen even with gold. Everything else is OK.
I eat Hellcats in detachments usually in a single drive by shooting.
The 152 will have HEAT and HE. Can’t wait for that. T69 and SP shared crew will go to that line. And I will retire the kitten after the nerf. The crew can go in the SP.
This indeed! Was about to post on the forums in the 59-16 thread. At least a buff in pen would be more then welcome. Somewhere around the 120′s would make this thing vary capable of defending itself and attacking light armored tanks it it needs to.
Same holds, TBH, for the MT-25 in that regard. That thing, although the gun is great at tier 5, it is outclassed with it, at tier 7+ in it’s role.
I honestly never found the guns on the MT-25 and 59-16 to be troublesome. The MT has so much speed that you can usually flank just about anything no matter the tier you’re scouting in, and if you can’t pen the sides/rear of something, either switch to APCR or move on to a different target.
As for the 59, I would only ever shoot APCR at light/medium tanks to defend myself or at artillery to get me some scumbag kills ;) Otherwise, I’d HE spam everything else to distract them from shooting my allies and/or detrack them. Worked for the whole grind.
Funny how everyone’s pointing out how the T49 LT will likely be OP, when the Tier 6 is a Chaffee that gets the same MM as a normal Tier 7 tank (ie no 10s!), and the Tier 7 has absolutely ridiculous gun handling and DPM for what’s effectively a really fast Tier 8 medium tank.
Seems like the M41 Walker Bulldog will be the go-to tier 7 US scout now. Similar speed to the T71 (albeit the M41 has a higher top speed), almost the same gun BUT it reloads 1 second faster between shells firing (minus the long autoloader reload), super fast turret/hull traverse (not to say the T71′s hull traverse was slow; just the turret was)
Hmm something more agile than KV-2 with better derp gun? Give it to me… =)
Hell ya, two of my favorite tanks combined, kv2 and chaffe :D
any update on the RU251 armour? Wasn’t included last leak.
Seems like all three scouts will be very different play styles
It basically has none. Was an armour model a while back. 30mm at best.
thanks, so it will be the worse armoured of the lot
About t37…680 HP rly ???? or 580 same like a top chaffe ?
The T37 is a fairly bigger tank than the Current Chaffee.
Big tanks = More HP.
T37 better than AMX12t and tier 7 better than AMX 13 75. Fuck shit… I hate the fucking american tanks, they are never bad. Usually, they are the best. WG has to do something with americans… T57 is already the best tier X heavy autoloader too. No point on playing french tanks if americans have always better versions of their tanks…
Ironic. Americans all say the Russian tanks are the overpowered ones. I disagree personally. I think almost all tanks in the game are mostly balanced “good enough”
It is because french tanks are made to retreat first
Anyone knows how much ammo will the T49 have?
22 rounds from the screenshots.
Uuh, like the VK2801 of old.
T49 will be able to use HEAT/HE/HE gold
Any info about what plan do WG with elite chaffe??? i refer if we are going to have for free elite T37 or at least T37 with all modules except the grind to Bulldog…. and xp in elite Chaffe.
Is not the same grind USA from T37 or from M41.
I think the stronk scout tier 8 is going to be the LT-54 but this T49… is a great anty top tiers but a light can send it to the hell very fast, remember me a lot VK2801 that is horrible to shoot over mobile targets at certain range… i think if T49 can mount a normal gun i am going to use it over derp, a fast light made to engage enemy at range before be able to spot you or to engange lights/meds at very short range in mobile combat…. and well i think a fast firing gun can deal more damage over a top tier in bad situation and you can avoid him.
PD: is a little strange test start in september… if they plan release 9.4 before 9.5 with UK line in 2014… maybe we are going to see short test??? 2 weeks???
Light T-54s stats looked very weak. RU251 looked much better. However this can change few times until release.
Hey SS could u tell exact how much XP we need on Chaffee and MT-25 in order to unlock upcoming T6 scouts?. Thanks
I wonder if the 13 75 will receive any buffs with these tank’s new stats, although it already needed them with the existence of the T71.
French always have a better american version of their tanks. I am very pissed with that.
Will at least the French lights are more capable then lets say the MT-25 or even the 59-16, in regards to dmg output. I’d say first look at these two machines (bottom section) and then go look in the mid section for buffs
Don’t suppose the camo factors are known on these new T8 scouts?
Given T49′s light construction, I bet the velocity of its 152mm shells will be sloooooow. KV-2 will probably feel like a rail gun compared to this.
The missiles had a velocity of 330 meters per second, so it is lower than that, while the KV-2 was at least in the upper 400s historically.
On the other hand I doubt the purpose of this LT ever was to snipe.
You are wrong, scouts are for snipe… doing pasive job spoting targets at 400m in a bush with camo net+camo+camo training is the only moment where you can shot, if enemy short range you simple cant shot, a scout in a good position giving team spot over enemy is to important to shot at short range.
In a melee …. well, VS other lights is ok but i dont like “dance a Tango” with a med over my tier, something very common.
In scouts i do more shots at close range but usually as vulture, moving to attack an enemy disctractec or under other attacks… but not a lot more than long snipe shots over tanks i can pen or show me a weak flank.
T49 derp… is going to be horrible gun, the idea is not bad at all BUT needs a shell that can arrive before enemy die by age.
In real life, you dummie.
Something that has always amazed me is that top scouts do not have the top view range in the game. Will it change with lights overhaul?
Those view ranges are still absurd. Heavy tanks have that much. Medium tanks have higher view ranges. What’s the point of scouting when everyone can see their targets themselves?
by now, 90% of the light tanks arent scouts anymore but “just” lighter meds aka dmg dealers too.
T-54 or 140 can spot even better than most of these “scouts”. No real scouts in the game anymore, no.
152mm of penetration!?!?!?!
*cries*
That’s the Heat Prem shell. NOT the reg HE shell.
It has 76 pen and 900 damage.
700 damage , bye bye WT auf E100
900*, that’s the heat shell listed. not the HE shell.
any info about the crews? like how many members?
SS, any chance of you posting xp research costs for all new lights?
Would like to now that as well. Don’t want to play MT-25 more than i already did. Hoping 65k would be enough for LTTB and some modules.
Personally I am excited about the 90mm M41 gun on the T49. If it has the same reload time as the M48A1 it will be amazing. Don’t get me wrong the 152mm will be fun as well, but the M41 stats in game make it a great tier 8 LT gun.
Currently the M41 has 263 avg pen with gold rounds and a .36 accuracy.
besides the damage, has there been any info on the other stats for this gun on the T49?
152 pen? wtf? that’s so garbage compared to the tier 8 ISU-152
The concept and difference between tank destroyers and light tanks is hard to grasp for you, isn’t it?
And the difference between a long gun and a howitzer… ISU-152 howitzer actually has worse pen (with non-premium rounds).
wow wow wow NO! just NO WarGaming 152mm heat round goes threw 7″ (177.8mm) of armor @ 60 degrees!
14″ 355.6mm @0 degrees !
Next power creep here I come *honk* *honk*