Source: VK Wotleaks community
Hello everyone,
currently, supertesters are getting their hands on the tier 8 FV4202, the new premium one. Furthermore, there are rumors that around the end of the year, some “really cool” mission will take place on RU server and that the mission might be related to the FV4202 switch, so maybe it would pay off to buy it as soon as possible. As far as I can tell, the supertesters are using the SD model as a placeholder for tier 8 for now.
The tier 8 FV4202 has following characteristics (these are VERY preliminary and might change):
Tier 8 MT
Price: 11750G (placeholder)
Hitpoints: 1400
Weight: 41,594 tons
Max speed: 35/20
Hull armor: 51/51/32
Turret armor: 170/90/90
Traverse: 42 deg/s
Turret traverse: 32 deg/s
View range: 390 m
Radio range: 750 m
Engine: RR Meteorite 202B
Power: 510 hp
Power-to-weight: 12,26 hp/t
Terrain resistance: 0.6/0.7/1.2
Fire starting chance: 20%
Gun: OQF 20-pdr Gun Type B Barrel
Damage: 230/230/280
Penetration: 226/258/42
Module damage: 118
Reload time: 7.6
Accuracy: 0.33
Aiming time: 2.4
Ammo: 50
Elevation: -10/+20 (back: -2)
Atleast it has good Penetration..
…but still overpriced. Meanwhile, SP is still sold for 7 200g
T-34-3 is looking after you.
Damn it, even now the tank suffering with 40 top speed…. Now they give it 35 :/ And Hull armor: 51/51/32, Turret armor: 170/90/90.
It better has pre MM. :(
Considering the gun, it won’t
The FCM 50T has over 200mm of penetration and it has preferential MM.
It is classed as heavy though, and as such it has greater MM weight, meaning if FCM is present then the team will get some tank with lighter MM to compensate (possibly lower tier or crappier one).
So 35 max speed. No hull armor: Crap power-to-weight ratio. And the tank is as big as a heavy.
Even SP could pwn this crap.
OMG FCM has the same weight as meds…I proved this before.
FCM MM weight= 46
T59= 46
t34-3= 46
Thats not true, it could easily be.
Just lol, this is not even worth doing the mission for it.
Too damn late for me :D
They will buff it for sure. WG doesn’t want to implement op tanks and than nerf them the next 5 patches anymore, so im sure they want to start from na underpowered tank to just buff it until its balanced and suited.
I think it’ll be worth it. Having a premium that’s more true medium with a gun that’s just about as good as sex. Ill take it.
definitely a true medium going as fast as an IS-3.
Not that Centurion is much faster :)
Yeah but cent has 120mm hull and wicked crazy turret.
Fact is the 112 heavy is faster than this thing.
I will get the FV4202 in time, and will do the mission for sure!
Free tank is free tank, but in order to sell this tank they really need to buff this tank. And 11750 gold just lol :D
Gak, that hull armour! Even though it’s angled well 51mm!
Its basically a worse Centurion now… Does it have pref mm?
And isn’t that what premium tanks are supposed to be? worse than regular tanks of the same tier?
It won’t for sure. Well, premium tanks are supposed to be a bit worse than their counterparts, right?
Less armor, better gun. Keep in mind the Cent I only gets the A Type Barrel, not the B. So it would be more like a less armored but faster Caernarvon.
Except it has the stats of the type A barrel (on cent, not even on caern) so no, same gun as centurion, worse hull armour, slower, less p/w, less turret traverse, less hit-points, worse view range. It has better hull traverse but the lower p/w will probably cancel that out. Really its only advantage over cent 1 is it a smaller target.
Though with limited MM it would probably work even in this state.
This tank will be the new Camping King =]]
But its ground resistance is much better. Centurion I has 0.96/1.06/1.82 so i would say it won’t be slower than the Centurion, except in top speed.
Additionally, the reload time is 0.4s lower (Centurion I has 7.5 rpm and 8s reload).
I don’t think that hull armor is so important for this tank, because you should be hull down or invisible anyway. And whether it has 72 or 51mm – i wouldn’t care because both is shit for tier 8.
I don’t think that it will be much worse than the Centurion I at all, so i am looking forward to play it.
True.
Also, it’s not so easy for Centurion to stay invisible because it is big and has poor camo. FV with lower profile likely will have better camo and it will be easier to stay undetected.
Cent 1 has a 7.6 second reload with a 100% crew (because of commander bonus). This has the same.
“fast” …
at least, it can play hull down
if they lower the commander’ s hatch.
I only hope it will have at least 600 HP engine and a better top speed. 35kph with paper armor sounds bad.
Max speed: 35
Yikes
Engine: RR Meteorite 202B
Power: 510 hp
Power-to-weight: 12,26 hp/t
Terrain resistance: 0.6/0.7/1.2
So an effective hp/t of 20.4/17.5/10.2 compared to the currently implemented 30.1/26.4/13.2
Double yikes
The speed kills it, but effective hp/t is better than FCM 50t
The max speed seems a joke.
Basically going to be a slow medium sniping platform with some hull down capability..
Okay?
the hull, 51mm? ladies and gents, this will be the feareast tank in WoT.
The 51mm of armor is correct, in fact this tank is not even made of armor steel.
The problem is the DPM and top speed is disgusting even with preferential MM.
You think the T10 FV4202 has the real values?
Its been buffed so far from the prototype its ridiculous.
It wasn’t even a prototype but a technology demonstrator for some new concepts.
And a technology demonstration is not a prototype for further development ?
The tank was more real than some other tanks in the game ..
http://www10.pic-upload.de/17.11.12/2o8u2bzxsod.jpg
rly? 510hp engine? if they make its armor much less bouncy, why also make is super slow? I hope they will give it Rolls Royce Meteor Mk4 (doesnt matter if Mk4B or Mk4C, anything will help)…
btw, it reminds me a lot of TOG, both has mostly bad armor, they are slow and has great gun… well, one of them is one tog longer, but that is just a minor difference….
Because it has the gun of a T8 heavy tanks, thats why it has to be slow and less armored than equivalent T8 meds.
O M G! tier 8 heavy gun? boy, if you havent noticed, british heavies (until tier 8) have medium tank guns, the fact that Caern has the same gun doesnt make it heavy tank gun….
You are very right!
Actually read it the other way: the caernarvon(and at15) uses a medium tank’s gun.
35kph top speed……….
not even a medium tank now
more like a turreted TD
Was the turret historically really that thin?
Yes, in fact the 170mm of steel is only a small part next to the gun.
http://imagizer-cv.imageshack.us/a/img69/11/zv1z.png
So still some parts are 200 or 240mm thick? Is the pic accurante?
It is accurate, yep.
51 armor what the hell, you’d be more armored in a pillow fort
It looks pretty much like I expected it to… except for that I thought the top speed and aim time would stay the same (I thought they would just give the 20 pounder the same accuracy, reload and aim time of the current 105 mm)
So, they’re turning the worst tierX med in the game into the worst tier8 med in the game?
Sounds about right.
The action X better be fucking awesome. A blowjob dispensing machine of joy.
Don’t be silly. Both the Action X and Chieftain will receive the not made in Russia treatment.
I believe you are referring to the “British, so complete trash” clause of that treatment.
Yes, I fear that as well.
But a man can dream.
“But a man can dream.” …. Yeah…. dreaming about “A blowjob dispensing machine of joy.” :)
Action X is actually worse in every way statswise than the FV is now .. So dont hold your hopes up too high
What’s with all these upcoming premiums? They all have garbage dpm and not much else going for them besides.
That top speed, hp/t and terrain resistance… I think my SP can maker circles around it… WG really needs to sit down and rethink what medium tank is all about.
It could be used if received for free (or some easy mission) but definitely not fort the gold! I thought spending some gold on premium account for faster grinding but after seeing this I’m not sure if it’s wise… I’m gonna go standard account and if I get it, I get it, if not, I don’t think I’m gonna lose much…
If you think a Super Pershing can do circles around it, you need to take a good look at your Super Pershing’s stats :P
His Super Pershing is “Super” for a reason!!!
The S is for “Special”.
Noone will buy this shit , all they had to do is to give it the turret of the FV (the nowadays’ t10′s) and a centurion hull with awful mobiltiy to compensate
Give that thing a top speed of 43, a power to weight ratio of 15 and a reload time of 6 seconds and it might actually be a fine tank.
Then you would need to get in your time machine and talk to the engineers who threw the thing together.
The whole reason for removing it from tier 10 is that WG made too many bad guesses instead of waiting for actual measurements/documents.
Dunno about you guys, but it seems to be fine for me. A slightly worse centurion, and the front armor can still autobounce guns, like the current 4202, even 122s won’t overmatch it.
35… piece of shit WG, piece of shit!
don’t see any “type B parameters” on the gun.
Hahahaha!!! thats why you shouldent go down a line just to get a free tank :p
Like working for and getting a free premium tank is something bad…
How’s about the people that just played to the tier 10 because they enjoyed the line and don’t want to see a tank they enjoy get turned into a steaming pile?
Are You sure You are playing and talking now about British MT line?
Are you sure you know what you’re talking about?
Please, explain to me in great detail about how the Cromwell, Centurion I, and Centurion 7/1 are bad tanks overall. Even the Comet and 4202 have their moments, and I personally enjoy both, despite their shortcomings.
FV4202 is so-so. My first Tier X.
I didn’t realize I unlocked it because I spent all of my Tier 9 battles on the Centurion 7/1.
Had the FV long b4 the prem was announced. But I’m happy u had a good laugh.
Quite crap aside from the gun, but at least it’s a free tier 8 premium (if the mission isn’t too retarded, that is).
Meh…seems alright, premium tank..a bit slow, but alright..not bothering with it anyway.
Pingback: Tier 8 FV4202 premiák je na světě!
Needs more power/weight.
Already looks like the worst tier 8 tank. Even the Panther 88 seems a lot better than this crap. If it goes live this, won’t even be worth doing the mission, unless it is extremely easy just to sell it for credits.
I don’t think you understand, only people that own a FV4202 in their garage will receive the mission, just like what happened to T34 years ago. Free T8 Premium = 45EUR saved in my wallet. 40k credits per loss, 60-80k credits per win IF SUCKING, 100-140k credits if playing good per battle. Bring it on, I’m tired of my T34 after 1200 battles on it.
Of course these stats are going to be changed during balancing process, but…
If this thing stays generally the same, I see no good reason to buy this over the upcoming Japanese premium. Hell, even Super Pershing will beat this in other categories but accuracy and penetration. Here I’m expecting it will also be sold in gift shop… I only see one reason to use this tank: British medium crew training. Action X is better be pure awesomeness then. I bet people training their Cromwell crew will just prefer playing Cromwell.
Buff frontal ufp to 70mm (so it at least has an ability to bounce), top speed to 40+, reload to around 6s, some bouncyness on turret like Centurion Mk 1, and it might be a good tank. Gun’s dispersion compared to FCM 50t is utter shit too.
Pingback: World of Tanks - FV 4202 aus dem Supertest - Himmelsdorf.de
I will transfer my FV4202 crew to the upcoming M3 Grant……lol! :p
Looks balanced for a T8 med. Unlike Type 59 and the future T-54 premium.
It’s balanced because it’s “free” [somehow]. And cause its “balanced” it won’t be as popular as future t-54 premium. Everybody wants to own in their shiny Type-59G
Pingback: Tier 8- FV4202- statystyki | WizjerCzołgisty.pl - Codzienny blog gry World of Tanks
what???? b-barrel with 7.6 sec reload!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! should be 5 second reload looking at rest of stats!!
You know that it (7.6s, 7.89rpm) is actually shorter than the reload time of standard Centurion? (8s, 7.5 rpm)
With rammer, commander bonus, bia and improved ventilation it will have about 9.6 rpm and 6.25s reload. Seems to be okay for me.
Thats quite a good ROF considering it can punch a hole in pretty much everything with laser accuracy. One thing i loved about the Cents are the amazing guns. Super accurate both standing and moving, quick reload, very nice pen power.
Seems okay to me too.
“(these are VERY preliminary and might change)”
THIS ISN’T MY FINAL FORM! :D
New grinding target: Get to 6.100.000 credits before December.
Current balance: 718.312
<_<
give it back its top speed of 40 and that’s all that need to done to it ( unless its got special MM then keep it at 35 ) , it will play just like a fcm 50t , and I have no problem with its stats. the turret it still going to be troll, and has the ability to bounce shots , and im looking forward to it.
lol wat – How will it play like an FCM when the FCM can actually, you know, go fast? Hell you’re better off playing an FCM. Just as soft but better DPM and can actually flex. The turret is incredibly weak, only a small part has 170 mm armor, and it has A.) massive cupola and B.) massive turret ring.
Wow this looked almost passable until I saw the power ratio and top speed.
WG should have used the gun stats from the caernarvon’s 20 pdr B barrel, instead of making it have pretty much the same stats as the A barrel on cent, with only 0,1 better RPM, same dispersion and bit worse aimtime.
WG are the kings of making OP tanks, but they are even better at making bad/decent tanks in to garbage
51 mm armor, BBarel, 35 km/h. So even worse homotank than FCM 50 t.
The fuck is a homotank
The FCM is the best tier 8 premium tank in the game
35km/h with tin can armor WHAT kind of med tank is that!
And what kind of premium,the shells for the 20pdr gun cost 630 credits and deal only 230 dmg,damn it i will be making more money in my T14 or Type 62 then with this shit!
I hope they will buff it’s speed or at least lower the shell costs before it’s release.
Looks like trash, but hey it’s preliminary. I’ll wait more to see what they do about it… I like my 4202 ; _ ; oh well…
I guess it makes for a very good T8 medium, due to the high turret armor + incredible penetration for a T8 medium, and I guess the mobility is quite good as well, not Panther II-like. It may even be a bit OP, but we’ll see about that if the tank is implemented.
To be honest, the 20 pounder is just incredible, even on TD’s, such as the AT-15, in which I even got called “OP” by a random (lower than 600 WN8 of course) Tiger II player – the DPM is just outstanding even if it doesn’t shoot every 4,2 or 4,3 (without BiA) seconds :D
Thing is – these british TDs are just so ugly…
This mission is probably for RU only, no free Tier 8 Premium for you, capitalist pigs!
11750 gold… wow WG’s getting either insane or desperate. I’d rather grind my medium crew on the Matilda BP, thank you very much, unless the mission is as easy as “Have the FV4202 in garage” in which case I’d shell out full price for a Tier 10 for the 2nd time (1st time was my 1st tier 10, the T57, all later 10s were bought 30% off while on-track). Other than that or something else I’d do anyhow… LOLNOPE.
Would rather buy an IS-6 to stat-pad with or something :P
So it manages to have a worse engine than the Centurions stock engine, and the Brits upgraded it to the B barrel to make it worse in everyway to the A barrel?
Ohh WG you so troll.
I’m disappointed that it has such a low Power to weight ratio though. That was one of the huge things about it, was how mobile it was. It might have only been 40 max, but it got to that speed and stayed there. Now… It’s just a gun. ;.;
I got the FV4202, I like it as a tier X, turret was the only bad thing at tier X, my first tier X, shame it has crap stats for the tier VIII premium :(
Pingback: E-25, STA-2, FV4202 - Rychlá Rota
this thing looks terrible not that I expected much more from wg on this but they really expect people to spend money to get this if they don’t already have it and get it through the mission? It seems people saying it’s fine are forgetting a major issue with the fv4202 and why it can’t go hull down now yes that armor looks ok on paper but the thing has no mantlet that and the hatch on top ruin any chance of using ridges well.
This is bullshit. I love how my Fv4202 handles now and they will change it to… This. The tank was all about mobility and now they give it 12.something hp/t. Bullshit!