67 thoughts on “Sinsheim museum photos”

1. wow, leo proto! nice

   Why do some tanks have their turrets in transport position, facing backwards?

   • Because donkey wanted you to be first

   • Well, probably because they were transported that way… :)

   • Parked tanks usually have the turret facing backwards as it takes less space, though it only “works” with tanks with the turret on the front of the tanks.

   • Most of the tanks in the outside area of the museum have their turrets in parking position.

     As there is more than enough space to turn them in the “right” postion, it is a pity that they haven’t done that.
     Some of the tanks are in a pretty bad shape (look at the fender of the Leopard 1A3), it’s a shame that they let them rot -especially when there are such rare tanks as the Leopard prototype :(

2. inb4 Donkey

3. Great Pictures !! But the Chaffee picture is wrong :-) :-) -> link error I think.

   Thanks for sharing.

   (Mode Troll/Flood on)
   First !!
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   • Too Slow !! not first ;-)

   • Thanks, fixed

4. Awesome pictures :) But i think that the “hetzer” pic has mixed with the Chaffee one….

5. Huh…3 different Leopard models?…nice.

   Also, Frank, you added the JPanzer 38t photo instead of the M24 Chaffee’s photo.

6. M24 Chaffee has a strange picture, didn’t know it has a TD version :)

7. the “Leopard1″ http://ftr.wot-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/IMG_1011.jpg is a Leopard Prototype A

   • yup, leopard PT A with 90mm gun.

     • so these guys have two leopard prototypes?! wow

8. Aaaand This is how a Chaffee SHOULD LOOK LIKE. Not the ingame demented version with the frankenstein turret.

   • its prototype m41 turret (walker bulldog)
     with upgraded turret its no more m24 but t37 phase 1

     • T37 also had a different hull, there were plans to put the turret/gun on the Chaffee, though (with an expanded turret ring).

       • first version of t37 had m24 hull
         thats why i type “phase 1″

9. Why is there a German cross on the m47 Patton?

   • because it was used by Germany

     • Here you can see a teaching-Video:

       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMS-il_sj-8

       • Germany got a lot of M47 and M48 from the USA for the rearmament in the 1950s.
         The M47 was phased out in the 1960s, when the Leopard 1 was introduced; the M48 was into service until the 1990s.

10. The Panzer IV is Ausf. G or Ausf. J? To be frank I don’t really know how to tell them apart.
    Also thank you very much SS & Gorbi (& friends :) for the pictures! I’ll always wanted to go to museum to see them IRL.

    • You’re welcome :)

      • As said, Ausf. J is the cheaparse model, so an easy way is to check if the driver and radioman have their vision slits on the hull superstructure sides. Which this tank doesn’t have.

        • the J also has straight pipe open exhaust and no exhaust for gas engine for that powered the generator for the turret traverse as power traverse was eliminated

    • Okay thank you very much guys!
      So it’s a Panzer IV Ausf. G, right?

11. 57mm ZiS-3

    Interesting, Soviets had 76mm Zis-3 (on the picture) and 57mm Zis-2 (i doesn’t have muzle break, and has very looong barrel).

12. eive also been there once and they got a few more tanks, especially mentioned should be that ugly AA vehicle, which is really utterly ugly but it is not to be seen anywhere else i have been so far.
    (just checked for a photo online)
    http://www.history-of-germany.com/research/sinsheim/images/sensheim_technik_museum_armor%20%2821%29.jpg

    Also they got a Panther lifted up on a plateau… you can (for a small “fee” ofc ^^) turn his turret, move his tracks and whatsoever.
    http://www.history-of-germany.com/index.php?scid=sinsheimPanzerArmor&page=32&

    • If I remember correctly, it works the same way the upcoming Pz Sfl IV b works.
      The sides fold down.

    • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%B6belwagen

13. Centurion (105): “Yer facing the wrong way, mate!”
    Leopard 1A3: AFK
    M47 Patton: “You’re not KV-5 to tank with rear!”

    • Even KV-5 players dont tank with their rear facing forwards. That is stupid.

      • I do.
        Also reverse sidescrap is good.

        • You mean asscraping?…

          • Reverse-scrap. Also ass-angling :D

            • Yeah on KV-5 angled ass > angled front

              There’s like a 10cm strip of metal that works as an ass weakspot, but only to 200+ pen guns

            • It’s the other way around, it’s a thin stripe in the middle of the ass that is well armored, the rest is weak.

14. you put M5 Stuart not M3

    • Late variants (M3A3?) had a sloped glacis instead of the old “stepped” design.

      • my bad:
        you can see “M3 kampfpanzer” on pic

        • Is that a dummy gun on the M3? Looks small

15. Too bad they have moved their Sturmtiger to another museum. I was keen on photographing that monster.

    • The Pak 40 looks like it took a beating…

16. Do you need pics from the Israeli museum @latrun?
    U can climb and on even get in some of the tanks so if u need close up photos..

    My bro got into ISU by crawling under the thing and entering thru a hatch/hole in its belly or something.

    • A friend of mine got into a T-34-85, well he actually fell in :D

      Didnt realise there is quite a drop from the turret to the floor.

17. 57mm ZiS-3? I think that its 76mm gun(short barrel and muzzle brake) 57mm was without muzzle brake and longer barrel isnt it?

    • Yup. The nameplate seems to be (partly) wrong. The ZiS-3 is indeed a 76mm gun.

18. Also in Sinsheim: A remaining Uboot motor of the Austrian navy.

19. Hmm, it suprises me how much museums do have StuG’s and Hetzers. Did that much of them survive the war?

    • Well, yes. The thing is, several countries were using StuG’s after the war (Czechoslovakia temporarily, Spain, Bulgaria come to mind) and took care of them well enough. As for the Hetzers, I’d say the huge majority of them are the G-13 vehicles, which are practically identical with the original JP38t’s, apart from the gun, there’s a different engine and there are a few other technical changes. They were decomissioned in 50′s or so and lots of those found their way to private hands. Another country that was using the Hetzer is post Czechoslovakia. Almost all JP38t’s in the world atm are of postwar Czechoslovak origin, same goes for German Sdkfz halftracks: most are OT-810 conversions.

      • Yugoslavia had StuGs in use until late ’40s and Hetzers until 1953. Some Hetzers (10 IIRC) were given to Albania in 1947 also.

20. What is that in front of the Škoda 210mm howitzer? JPIV or E25? Or something else?

    • E-25 was blueprint-only (well, at least there is no evidence about built prototypes).

    • I think it’s a HS 30 APC.

21. m48 is propably m48a3

22. That Poor Pershing needs a paint job… its rusting.

23. “Pak 5,7 cm / ZIS-3″ ZIS-3 is 76,2mm (ZIS-2 is 57mm)

    that M3 Stuart is actually a M5 Stuart

    • M5A1, M3A3 had sloped sides and original M5 had straight engine deck.

24. Servus Gorbi,
    Haben die den Jagdpanther nichtmehr als Exponat in Sinsheim?

    • Doch, den haben sie noch. Ich hab auch einige Bilder davon gemacht. Allerdings ist das hier auch nur eine kleine Auswahl der Bilder, alles andere (200+ Bilder) würde den Rahmen dieses Blogs sprengen.

25. Soo… Why do they have a yellow and black bumblebee Sherman?

26. As I keep saying on here,

    That’s not a Bren Carrier, its a Universal carrier! I’ve said this before, and its not stuck.

    They are different vehicles!

    Bren Carrier:
    http://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/etexts/GreLong/GreLong025b%28h280%29.jpg

    This model shows the rear hull differences nicely:
    http://www.flamesofwar.com/Portals/0/all_images/british/Transport/BR208b.jpg

    This is Universal carrier:
    http://militarysource.vojsko.net/TECHNIKA/Pozemni/univcarmk.2_02.jpg

    • Blame it on the museum, the nameplate there says Bren Carrier.

27. nothing major just a small mistake the SIG 33 was 105mm not 150mm

    • The web and the game say 15 cm (it’s the gun from the Sturmpanzer I Bison and the Sturmpanzer II).
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_cm_sIG_33