Hungarian armor part 2 – Introduction, Straussler tanks

Part 1 – 44M Tas and Tas Rohamlöveg

Hello everyone,

welcome to part 2 of the Hungarian series. It’s a bit unusual to have part 2 and no introduction to the Hungarian army yet. Part 1 dealt with the most modern Hungarian projects to “whet your appetite”, but now it’s time to start at the beginning. Hungarian branch will definitely be one of the most interesting branches of the upcoming EU tree, so let’s have a look at them. As I wrote earlier, I imagine the branch to be something like this:

T1 – Straussler V-4
T2 – Toldi I/II light tank
T3 – Toldi III light tank
T4 – T-21/Turán I medium tank
T5 – Turán II/III medium tank, Zrinyi I/II
T6 – ????
T7 – 44M Tas, Tas Rohamlöveg

Of course, that is just my imagination, but it should give you an idea about the composition.

Introduction to the Hungarian Army

The Royal Hungarian Army (Magyar Királyi Honvédség) was without a doubt one of the most powerful European allies of Germany in World War 2 and – with the exception of Italy – the Axis power with the best armored forces. But it was not always so. After the Great War, the once great Hungarian Empire was in ruins. The war was lost and during the process of post-war map redrawing, Hungary lost a huge part of its former territory to the newly emerging nations, including Czechoslovakia. The situation was made even worse by the poor agricultural and social situation of the land, leading to years of political instability and civil unrest.

The real problems started during the war already: in 1918 the war was going badly, leading to the resignation of the wartime government in 1918. Pro-peace forces in Hungary took the opportunity and Count Mihály Károlyi proposed a new government, consisting of a right-wing and social-democratic coalition. The Hungarian King at the time (Charles IV. of the Habsburg-Lorraine dynasty) was however reluctant to confirm Károlyi’s appointment, which led to huge demonstrations, forcing the king to accept the situation. After his appointment, Királyi started negotiating for peace. His results however were very problematic for Hungary: both Slovakia and parts of Romania (a feud that would spark hostilities for decades to come) declared the intention to secede from the Hungarian Kingdom, which – in Slovakian case – led to a short border war in first week of November 1918, in which the experienced Hungarian army pushed the Slovak (essentially volunteer) forces from Slovak regions. However, after diplomatic pressure from France, Hungary was forced to retreat from what would later become Slovakia. In the meanwhile, Prague (the capital of the newly born Czechoslovakia) mustered its forces (consisting of experienced troops who formerly fought on both sides of the Great War) and took the rest of the Slovak territory.

On 16.11.1918 in Budapest the king was forced to resign, parliament was dissolved and Hungary became a republic with Count Károlyi as its first president. The situation in Hungary was bleak – World War 1 was understood as the worst national defeat since the Turkish incursions, there were problems with food supply even for the capital and riots were daily occurence. Such turbulent times always do support the rise of extremism, that was in Hungary’s case represented by Bela Kun, who founded the Communist Party of Hungary, that quickly rose to popularity.

In the meanwhile France was very clear in its pressure on Hungary to let go of the Szeged and Debrecen territories (including the cities), which was something unacceptable for both the government and the people. Desperate for help, the government (now controlled by social democrats) turned to Béla Kun, a hardcore communist (who wanted to impose the proletariat dictature on Hungary) for help. In March 1919, the government was renamed to the “council of people’s commissars”, a huge amount of property was nationalized and political opponents of the communists were imprisoned. Naturally, Hungary essentially becoming a bolshevik state did not make a lot of people happy. France was also not happy – French Prime Minister Georges Clemenceau was not interested in having what he saw as communist bridgehead in Europe. An anti-communist coalition was struck and in April 1919, Romanian and Czechoslovak armies attacked Béla Kun’s bolshevik Hungary. Hungary was not alone however, as the Red Army was pressing on the Romanian forces also. That didn’t help though, the Red Army was stopped, Hungarian forces were routed (many capable officers deserted to the newly formed anti-bolshevik National Army, formed in Szeged by admiral Miklos Horthy). In the end, the communist regime fell and the new government formed after 6.8.1919 took harsh measures against the former bolshevik leaders. Leading communist officials were arrested and many were executed. Béla Kun himself managed to escape into exile and moved to Moscow in 1920, but he did not escape his fate in the end: he was arrested on Stalin’s orders in 1939 and executed.

As a result of this tragic year, it was decided to name Miklos Horthy the “regent of Hungary” (1.3.1920). From January to April 1920, negotiations were also held regarding the Hungarian territory losses, resulting in the Trianon treaty, that confirmed them. It was this treaty that would later lead Hungary straight into Hitler’s hands, but in 1920, the situation was different.

By this treaty, Hungary lost 66 percent of its territory (that was split between Czechoslovakia, Romania, Serbia, Croatia, Slovenia and Austria) and 60 percent of its citizens. Furthermore, it was decided that Hugary may not ever again join Austria in one state, the Hungarian army was severly limited (to 35 thousand men) and banned from using chemical weapons, armored vehicles, airplanes. The amount of artillery was also strictily limited.

But that was it. No more war, no more defeats, Hungary took a deep breath and started working on its prosperity. The last echoes of the old order – two Habsburk attempts to seize power in early 20′s – were quickly taken care of, as were remnants of the bolshevik regimes. Future finally looked brighter for Hungary, or so it seemed…

Straussler tanks

As I mentioned above, Hungary was banned by the Trianon treaty from having any armored forces. However, just like Germany, in the early 30′s, as the Allies’ grip on these treaties and their enforcement became looser, Hungarian army – previously very poorly armed – had started to experiment with tracked vehicles.

At that point the leading force behind the tracked vehicle innovation was Nicolas Straussler. A car designer of some renown, the was active mostly in Britain and co-developed for example the Alvis-Straussler AC1 and AC3 armored cars. However, Straussler wanted to break thru in Hungary too and – apart from various personal cars and trucks – he also made a proposal for a tank.


These activities were of course in direct break of the Trianon treaty and had to be kept strictly secret. That’s why Straussler’s vehicle was originally designated as an “agricultural tractor” (vontató), a name that was supposed to fool anyone nosing around about its true nature. The construction Straussler proposed was quite interesting, consisting of two big and two small roadwheels, capable of independent lift of each wheel (that allowed for some quite impressive terrain passability). Straussler offered his first project, designated V-3 to the Hungarian army in 1933. It looked like this:


The army liked the proposal and allowed for one V-3 prototype to be built. The prototype was finished in Summer 1935 by “Weiss Manfréd Rt.” company – compared to the original proposal, the suspension was made sturdier. The hull was riveted, consisting of steel plates, with vision slits being cut in it in front and on the sides. The V-3 prototype also had a circular hole in its roof to mount a turret, but the turret itself was never mounted, as the V-3 was simply a test rig to verify the quality of the concept. The engine was in the back. There was an interesting attempt to actually make the vehicle amphibious by mounting large floaters on the sides, that actually worked.

The V-3 prototype was also tested in Britain (Straussler offered it to the British army) in 1935, with a different engine solution (two engines propelling each side independently), but in the end, priority was given to the Mk.VI light tank and nothing came of it. The British variant had a turret already according to some sources. Furthermore, in 1935, the vehicle was offered to Japan (the Japanese were not interested, nothing came of it. An export version with turret was proposed in 1936, but like before, noone was interested.



Crew: 3
Weight: 8 tons
Armor (hull): 23/13/9
Engine: 100hp V4, unknown type
Speed: 45 km/h



Encouraged by the positive feedback on his V-3 test vehicle from the Hungarian army, Straussler designed a fully-equipped light tank (designated V-4) and proposed it to the Hungarian authorities in 1936. The prototype authorization was confirmed and one prototype was built in 1936, again by the “Weiss Manfréd Rt.” company. Unlike the V-3, V-4 suspension had two support rollers. The hull was mostly welded (although some riveted areas remained) and it was equipped by a rectangular turret with a 37mm gun. The vehicle was designed for 4 crewmen (driver, commander, gunner, loader) and was powered by a V8 160hp Manfred-Weiss engine. Just like with the V-3, an amphibious version also existed (with large floaters).


Some sources state 4 prototypes were made, but recent Hungarian researchs points at the fact there was in fact only one prototype, but it was rebuilt numerous times based on Straussler’s demands. The vehicle was actually not offered to Hungary first: as early as 1936 it was trialed and shown in Great Britain and possibly Italy. In 1938, the prototype was renamed to V-4/40 (based on the installation of a 40mm licensed Bofors gun instead of the earlier 37mm gun of an unknown type) and returned to Hungary for Hungarian army trials.

During these trials it was shown that the vehicle was quite fast (50km/h), but it had some serious flaws: it was too heavy and could tip over easily. Furthermore, the driving performance of the vehicle was very bad (the ride was very “bumpy”), not allowing for any aimed shooting when the vehicle was in motion. Overall, it was a disappointment to both the army and Straussler. At that point the Hungarian army stopped even pretending to adhere to the Trianon treaty and publicly stated it would be ordering 110 armored vehicles. Straussler secretly hoped he’d be the one to win the trials with the other competitors being the German Panzer I and the Swedish Landsverk L-60, but that was not to be. In the end, it was the Landsverk, who won the competition (L-60 would later become the Toldi), because its construction was deemed the most advanced.


What happened after that is unclear. In one version of the events, 4 prototypes existed: one stayed in Hungary, other three were sold abroad, one of them possibly to Italy. The vehicle that stayed in Hungary was captured by the Red Army in 1945, it was confiscated and moved to Kubinka, where it was tested. Some historians think it’s hidden in Kubinka’s depository until this day. However, despite being unsuccessful, one thing makes V-4 important: it was the first indigenous Hungarian armored vehicle.


Crew: 3 (V-4) or 4 (V-4/40)
Weight: 10 tons (increased to 12 tons for V-4/40)
Armor (hull): 26/13/9 (turret: unknown)
Engine: either WM 180hp V8 (V-4/40) or Alvis 160hp V6 (early 1936 V-4)
Maximum speed: 46 km/h
Gun: 4 cm-és űrméretű harckocsiágyú 37.M (4cm 37.M, licensed Bofors manufactured in Hungary), or 37mm gun of an unknown type (early 1936)

I.Pejčoch – Obrněná technika
C.Kliment, D.Barnád – Maďarská armáda 1919-1945

To be continued…

54 thoughts on “Hungarian armor part 2 – Introduction, Straussler tanks

  1. FYARST….

    …of all I would like some more articles of Czech medium tanks, if you could

      • The poll was cheated at though and SS knew that, so I doubt the poll played any role in making this post.

        • I’m Dutch and I was interested in Hungarian tanks, dont make a conspiracy out of everything…

        • Its my “mistake”. I translated the first part to hungarian, and posted it on our website. I linked the source, and asked our readers for vote if they like the article. They voted :D
          Anyway. Thank you for these brilliant articles!!!

          WotHungary Admin

    • There was a vote on the top right corner:

      “Hungarian tanks (finishing the series) (37%, 2,948 Votes)”

      • They (or we cause im hungarian) win because wot hungarian team shared the vote and it has ~10k likes so many people come and voted thats why we win.

    • And I voted for Spain (dunno why, I’m french but I’m interrested in the obscure spanish tank history during WW2 and around).

    • No because because I only know most nations like US, Soviets, Spain, Japanese, UK, Chinese, Italian, Australia, Germany, France, and Israel… but I didn’t know Hungarians had their own tanks.

        • What if the British got ideas for the Tetrarch from the V-4 as the V-4 was offered to the British first in 1936, and the Tetrarch prototype was made in 1937?

          • If you are playing at the suspension/track system: I doubt it, although both use 4 wheels, the systems are fundamentally different.

            -The Road wheels on the Straussler Tank are on bogies, the ones on the tetrarch are suspended independently.
            -All road wheels on the Tetrarch are equally sized, Strausslers arent.
            -The Tracks of Strausslers Tank have a single row of teeth while the Tetrarchs track have 2 rows
            -The Straussler suspension is mentioned to have excellent terrain passability (although being uncomfortable and bumpy) while the Tetrarch has a rather bad terrain passability (dont know about its comfort though).

            Thats about it, the two suspensions have nothing in common except for the number of wheels (not even that in the V-4 version due to the 2 return rollers).

  2. I jsut want help to correct this article:
    “Gun: 4 cm-és űrméretű harckocsiágyú 37.M (4cm 37.M, licensed Bofors manufactured in Hungary), or 37mm gun of an unknown type (early 1936)”

    “4 cm-és űrméretű harckocsiágyú 37.M” – 4cm caliber tank gun
    37M means ([19]37 Type.

  3. After Italy, Japan, (sweden – bringing the iron for the german steel) then maybe hungary, but had like 25k realy equiped soldier no will to fight.
    If you dont like the truth then go to Romania, create a fantasy history, kill millions of euros in it to get recognition in the world and enjoy it.

        • Yes , Hungary had a better army because Romania stopped giving a fuck about it’s army , and relied on it’s allies.But still Romania had an overall larger army than Hungary but badly trained and equiped, and like always there were extremly few experienced generals.Even so I consider that the Romanian army did a decent job for their capabilities.

        • Yes that’s true, but we(romanians) didn’t had factories to built tanks…we were forced to buy them in order to keep up with our “allies”…but with some help from the soviets (captured T-60s) and technological support from germans and czechs we built a tank destroyer named Maresal (Marshal)… he didn’t lived long, but that gave birth to Hetzer.

          • Actually it was the other way around AFAIK, the Hetzer inspired the Maresal, but I might be mistaken here.

            • It most likely 2 independent development, wich ended in 2 queite similar vehicles.

              And a “funny” thing: during WW2, both Hungary and Romania garrisoned they best equipped and trained troops along they border in Transylvania… Two allied nation.

            • Two allied nations… What an joke , we hate eachother(RO-HUN) since we first met. The alliance was only on paper.

  4. On a side note Straussler made the DD thingy for the Brits and American right?
    If it’s so then can you make an article about it sometime in the future please?

  5. Thanks! Great article! I love to hear more about my country’s armoured vehicles. The hungarian education is so poor on this subject.

  6. Great article SS,thanks for it!

    It is always fascinating to read about your own country`s history,especially when it is something not well known!

    As of the V-4 it does look cool in my opinion too!


  7. Hi. Nice article. I was always fascinated by hungarian armour and technology.
    So this is a nice and interesting article. Thank you for the information.

    I’, posting here because i have done some research for hungarian armoured forces too
    (for a different game project basing on hearts of iron and company of heroes).
    Is someone here hwo can tell me the names and datas of hungarian armour experts and officers?
    Was was responsable for hungarian armour programs and armour division formation and training.
    Is there someone like a hungarian version of Heinz Guderian? Someone who developed armoured
    tactics and training devices for the hungarian army? I’m always fascinated by the human beings behind this “technological aspects”.
    Thank u very much.

    • Only name I can remember is József Misnay, but he researched cumulative weapons, not tanks. He developed the 43M AT mine, which is used something called Misnay–Schardin–effect nowadays.
      +thanks to him, Hungary was able to build portable AT rocket launchers, (it is very unique among the smaller nations) + HEAT shells when Germany refused to give us the Pak40′s blueprints, so we forced to use 40mm Pak36 variant against T-34s…

    • That’s because the T7CC was nerffed in the region of its speed for, as overlord put it, “balancing reasons”. Not that it has an over powered gun, health points, shell penetration, speed or armor or anything… =(

      38.6kph =/= 56kph. No way. No how. No sir.

      Also the FCM 1A from 1916-18 with its 35mm of armor is a much better tank. But it will do only, iirc, 18.5 or so kph.

    • Probably not, the V-4′s 40mm gun is designated as 37M, the Turán I’s gun is designated as 41M. They are not the same, the V-4′s gun was made by Bofors, the Turán I’s one however produced by the Skoda.