87 thoughts on “2.1.2014”

1. “- captured German KV-1 will be slightly worse than elite Soviet KV-1 (“as usual”)”

   Russian bias! They said that the captured tanks will be same as normal tanks, because they are not premiums but captured vehicles…

   • Well it has weaker gun than wot elite KV-1 so why are you suprised?

   • Well, if captured tanks will have connection to historical battles (like getting them as a reward or even using them in those battles), then this would be logical, because 85-mm has not been installed on KV-1.

   • No, it was reward tanks which were going to be as good as regular tanks. The captured KV will be a regular premium.

2. “- Overlord admits that the M60 might not have been a good choice for CW reward tank”

   It was a much better choice than the VK. Many clans decided not to bother competing for the VK as it looked so awful.

   • Well, I was playing for VK but lack of time made me miss quite a lot of battles and I ended on somewhere around 10500th place :) made me smile but still better than mate who played about the same battles and ended around 10150th :) Anyway, VK should be ok and fun, I guess it is not so different in playstyle from E100 and I for example love my E100 with decent winrate (not too high but still).

     The problem in M60 I see is in that many players wanted it simply because it was M60, not some paper prototype newer build while many people who got it from CW did not care about history and just wanted a decent tank, fitting their playstyle which M60 did not provided (who does not like M48 wont like M60 I was told). As I see it, they gave something to those who did not want it and “took it away” from those who did want it. But that is just my guess.

     • I agree with this assessment. Many players want the M60 because it is an M60. Quite a few of the older tankers once crewed real life M60s. When they made the M60 a CW reward, WG really lost a strong incentive for many players to grind (or more likely free XP) an American line that included it.

     • I was a M60A1 platoon leader in the early 1980s.

       I work and have a family. My gaming is limited to late night/early morning and the weekend. So, I have no time for clan wars.

       I have no problem with reward tanks. But, come on. I have to believe that there are many former tankers in the US who like me would love a chance to fight with a M60. Put it into a tree with upgrades and I would fight however many random battles that they wanted even against nothing but tier X TDs and arty. Hell, I would pay money to get it.

       • How much money are we talking about here? :D

         • What a nice guy to consider an old man’s desires. ;)

           • Duno how it went in the EU/NA sector (wherever you’re playing from, that is) but here in RU it was pretty easy to get it. There’s a cluster of top-level clans that actually did some violation and “sold” out the m60s, as in you pay, get recruited to the clan, fight some battles and get the m60, and they kick you out.
             Not really in on the details of this stuff, but the whole case is pretty well-known, and visible – with all those subpar m60 drivers out there in random pubs.

   • Better choice? Don’t be an idiot. The M60 should have been in the tech tree. There is no sense in making this production vehicle in the same group inhabited by an imaginary Lowe or a prototype Soviet vehicle?

     The M60 should be in the tech tree to replace the M48. The M48 should be in Tier 9 while the M46 at Tier 8 since an upgraded M26 Pershing is pretty much what an M46 is.

     • Or keep the Pershing as it is on tier 8, give it 185-190 pen.
       Change the M46 to a M47 Patton (better hull armour and top speed)
       And as for the M48, buff top speed and give us one of the variants with a smaller/no tumor on the turret.

       Then put M46 as a Tier 8 premium tank :) . In historical config or with prototype M47-esque turret.

   • Well, I’d kill for a VK72 as I’m a massive German tank fan – especiallly of the ‘what if’ type tanks like this one – but since they only made it available to like a microscopically tiny sub-minority of the tiny minority of the WoT playerbase who are 24/7 ultrahardcore permagoldspam CW-only players…it’s impossible for 99.99999% of players ever to get one, no matter how much they would enjoy it. It’d be nice to see WG introduce a less elitist/restrictive way to get your hands on one…

     • to get the VK you only needed to play a few battles in the campaign every day, and win like 50% of them, it was not hard at all

       • If you have a job and weren’t already in one of the hardcore CW-orientated clans, it was effectively impossible. WG need to make things more generally available, this extremely restrictive elitism does nobody any good.

         • Hmm interesting thought,

           I have family and must work too!

           But i got it, i have played about 20 battles in total in the campaign .

           5000-7500 per battle and some with only 1000 FP or so.

           i was in place 8500 something, and i am not a really active player, in M60 case i cant tell anything, but to get the VK its enough to be in a medicore clan that has 2 teams to play 2-4 battles each day.

           So the VK thing was really a fair and possible solution

           • When I was in the Marines, the M60A3 was what we had, being a collector with over 140 tanks in my garage, I’d like to have one. New to clan wars at the time, I had no way of knowing I was in the wrong clan at the time, or I would have gone somewhere else. Hopefully there will be a way to get a M60 in the future.
             Appy/Samantha

           • For VK case,you are right,because simply WG understood that they made a mistake about reward tanks via CW should not be so hard.As you mentioned above even medicore clans had Vk 72.01 in their arsenal now.Probably it will get more balanced when the 3rd Campaign begins.

             For M60,i’m not here to whine or such but simply with all these efforts put by hardcore players,it was a frustation in my opinion.They battled for hours,days etc and WG just give a tank not so different than M48 itself with a huge light box on the turret

     • In order to get the vk you actually needed to one thing only to be in a clan that tries to play clan wars, even if they where half assed at it you would get it. And a lot of clan players have jobs and families, the people in my clan have an average age of 30+ and we managed to get 40 + people to get the tank.

       So get your facts straight before you whine here !!!

3. “- captured German KV-1 will be slightly worse than elite Soviet KV-1 (“as usual”)
   - apparently (if I understand it correctly), Germans could get some hightier medium premium tanks, such as Panther Ausf.F, Panther II prototype (SS: Panther II hull with Panther I turret) or East German T-54, but no more info (“details at our discretion”)”

   Hope the German KV-1 and the Panther Ausf.F get preferential MM. Even if it’s slightly worse than the KV-1, that would still make it a strong competitor to the Churchill III and possibly the KV-220. An East German T-54 would be interesting.

   • Another Type flood?

     • Sure, why not?
       I buy three :P

     • Type 59 is OP as a premium, because it is as good as other tanks of its tier and type :P .

       However, give the Type 59 -5 gun depression instead of -7 and it would work out.

       • It wont – ppl still think legendary Type is OP and buy buy buy East Germany T-54.
         Unless some shit gun and 90mm front would make it – but there is 34-3 already.

   • Grey Type flood this time…100mm/60° armor is just too good for a tier8 medium tank as long as it does not get into t10 battles

   • Its funny people still think types would flood.

     The flood was the problem of the MM, it was T8 maximum, so it saturated all battles in T8 where you often had 6vs6 types or so.

     If they would have given it normal premium MM from the start, aka +1 tier people would never have complained about this.

     • Type59 does have a normal premium MM (+1 tier). I own one :P

       • When it came out, all it had was Tier 8 MM, it was always the “top dog”. There even was a popular video, which called all the noobs: Buy type and kill all, never in T9 or T10 matches, free win right here.

4. Did you get the overlord statement from the russian Q&A? And does it say anything else in that regard?

   • From his blog. The link to the post is at the beginning.

     • Thank you

5. - Object 278 tank is not planned

   That’s fine.. plan the Object-279 – it’s what we want anyway.

   “- Overlord admits that the M60 might not have been a good choice for CW reward tank”

   Overlord should admit these current reward tanks should have also been offered as “Technical Engineer” unlocks that you’d still have to purchase for 10-million credits after unlocking them for those who still want an interesting carrot to chase, but may live outside of the NA server’s “reasonable CW time-zones” and can’t participate in them.

   • Nope. The M60 should be in the tech tree and not some retarded CW reward vehicle OR something stupid that requires players to grind through tanks they do not want to play (arty for me for example) with an added 4 million credits to the price tag of a normal Tier 10.

     The FailLowe and that Soviet prototype can be reward tanks. The M60, a production vehicle, should have been in the damned tank tree.

   • Thats a pretty smart idea. Esp for trees that are robust like Germany, USSR and US. I would chase that reward down. I also live in a time zone that makes CW impossible.

   • Object 277 is a better choice than 279.

6. “Overlord admits that the M60 might not have been a good choice for CW reward tank”

   Why? Is it too OP or what?
   Or its not very popular in CW/Campaigns?

   I like this tank, its dexterity, speed, accuracy, dmg, rld time and penetration gives me much fun while playing it. Armor is thick but as usual – something for something.

   • Not OP or anything but it is all round superiour to the M48. I think the main reason why Overlord thinks it was a poor choice for a CW vehicle because it should have been in the tech tree. So far, the FailLowe, whatever that Soviet medium prototype is, and the announced T95E6 are either fictional or prototype vehicles. But the M60 was an actual production vehicle. It deserves to be in the tank tree.

     • Agreed that the M60 is more powerful than the M48…

       • maybe they should put M60 into the tech tree and for a reward they should switch it with T54E6, or change the current M60 into M60(1st campagin)…

         however, if implemented this might start massive whinning…

7. - SerB states that there are currently no guarantees, what kind of computer will you need for HD client maximum details, but states that it should work fine on GT760 graphic card

   GT760? or did you mean GTX760?

   • GTX actually

8. - SerB (when commenting on one player’s whine – a player who wrote something in Russian not correctly, claiming there is a conspiracy against some players): “There is a Wargaming conspiracy against illiterate people”

   SerB would probably have answered the same way even if the question were worded perfectly. Seems to me, their attitude has always been that illiterate players would always have problems playing, whereas intelligent ones would figure it out by either playing or reading how to get better.

9. I assume by new skins they arent meaning we will have to buy new “premium” skins?

   • I think that reward tanks for clan wars should be distributed differently, my suggestion is as follows…

     Top clan in clan wars = Free Tank!
     From that point on ALL the way down the list of clan war clans a discount is applied to the cost of the tank, the better ranked your clan is, the cheaper the tank is.

     The tank is then still sold to everyone in the game, so that way you get a clear advantage for being the top clans, but the tank is not impossible to get for everyone else.

     • Nice offtopic, and WG stated they will not sale tier X tanks for gold…

       • Never said gold, and yes I know it is off topic, was a mistake made, first post ever on the site and I hit reply by accident instead of “Comment” below – My apologies to the OP of this comment!

         • I would never have put in the same amount of time for a discounted tier10, sorry.

   • No, they are talking about user made skins, for example anime skins or historical skins.

10. For the M60, why not implement a nearly impossible mission to get it? It could be something like “do 1,000,000 damage, achieve the ‘Patton Valley’ Medal’, and have the M48 Patton in your garage, all in one month”?
    It would still be accessible to only unicums mainly, but what would the M60 be without it?

    Oh, and SS, what would you think of a line that went T20>T23>?>T95E6?
    I feel that it was completely uncalled for to make the T95E6 a reward tank, and I think that it could make for a viable top Tier medium in a line of fast, but weakly armored flanking brawlers. Imagine Chinese mediums with their heavy-esque armament, only with French armor and American gun depression. The T20 already kind of fits the bill with its punchy 90mm, great gun depression, and paper armor.

    It could be a way to finally reintroduce the T23, and I feel that it could all work out, except for that I’m looking for a viable Tier 9. Do you know if Priory has any prototypes that could fill it?

    • 1M dmg? Easy. Gold E100 here I go.

    • Buddy there are many types of the T95 don’t worry we will see one of them in the tech tree

      • Me no want Fatton turret. ;_;

    • The T95E6 has better frontal turret protection than the M103 as per Hunnicutt. It also has ~226mm effective front and it’s weight is in excess of 40t with a 550HP engine. Not quite the fast flanker with weak armour.

      Rather instead it would fit perfectly in a tough medium branch with M4A3E2 -> ? -> M47/T42 -> T54E2 -> T95E6.

      If you are looking for something that would fit the tier 10 T95 model that would fit the E5 (M48 turret + 105mm L7), E7 (T95E1 turret + 105mm L7) or studies F,G (120mm L1A1) or D and E (105mm T140). As for tier 9 the M47, T42 with some fictional 105 would work.

11. “- skill MM for random battles is not being developed (SS: it will not come)”

    The only and single thing good players ask… yet never implemented….

    • Im above good player – and I never asked such. Nor I need it. Platoon much, very teamwork, such WR, wow.

      Skill MM is in Team Battles. Go there.

    • Only baddies and shitters want skill based MM because they still believe their shitty stats are the product of an uncapable team of 12 year old children, and not their inability to get good and actually carry.
      Ranked random matches would kill this game instantly. Your hard earned 52% winrate would vanish in a week, to join the endless masses of 49%ers like everyone else. With equally skilled players you will never be good again.

      • Well in truth if you had skill based MM you will have bad vs bad until the bad player becomes better and is now a good player and starts go against good players it would be intresting to see the players growth in the game and for the unicomes the go against other unicums sand lets see how many if them are seal clubbers

        • And pls camp 15 mins because nobody is that dumb to rush like siema.

        • Right ’till you hit a wall and just can’t get better any more. Everyone has his limits. And unicum vs unicum battles would get boring fast. Oh, and on that level – individual skill would not matter anymore – it would be more like: who has better teamwork, tactics, better disposition (for example: playing with a really high fever is not a good thing – trust me, I tried…) and more luck wins.

          Want skill? Try CW, companies. Leave random for noobs like me.

      • Matched teams skill MM is hard to argue against, IMO. That is, for every good player in one team, the other team gets a similarly good player; the same for average and bad players. This means both teams still likely have diversity of player skill, but no team gets excessive amounts of good or bad players compared to the other.

        This would not influence WR significantly, at least not in the dramatic way that skill equality between all players in a match would, but would reduce games which are too difficult or too easy. I want my games to be consistently fun and challenging, not having to suffer runs of bad luck MM or lots of cheap easy wins due to good luck.

12. AMX-30 Yes pls

    Oh Shut up and take my exp :)

    • Lol harbingers I didn’t know you were here

      • Yeah I’m still here
        and watching livestream

13. @wot conspiracy
    Put your tin foil hats on guys, there’s a book (e-book to be precise) about conspiracies in world of tanks! It’s only in Polish, but there’s a chance for English-speaking people to be enlightened and freed from le matrix if author decides to translate it. :D

    http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/334500-ksiazka-prawda-o-world-of-tanks-dzis-premiera/
    http://www.dom1n.com/newsy/prawda-o-wot-flysold/

    inb4 full zeitgeist-like movie about wot conspiracies

14. - apparently (if I understand it correctly), Germans could get some hightier medium premium tanks, such as Panther Ausf.F, Panther II prototype (SS: Panther II hull with Panther I turret) or East German T-54, but no more info (“details at our discretion”)

    …German T-54??
    …
    …
    at tier 8???

    I would totally buy that.

15. - AMX-30 will come (“it’s done when it’s done”)

    MUH FABULOUS FRENCHIES ;__;

    Srsly… they implemented Batignolles Chatillon 25t which was just a private project to compete with AMX 13 on the world market….. and muh glorious AMX-30 is not to be see any time soon ? ;__;

    Oh well…. i guess Bat. Chat. adds more variety to the rooster than muh fabulous AMX-30…

16. “- the turret being ripped off during ammo rack explosion will be computed by the serverside Havoc, so that it flies the same for everyone seeing it. SerB states he’s not sure whether the turret will drop always bottom down (SS: since the bottom/inside of the turret is not modelled), but states it’s possible that the turret will simply always end up with its bottom down”

    From a physics (and historically accurate ;)) standpoint, having the turret land right-side up all the time would make absolutely no sense. Kind of like how tanks can’t flip over; when you fall off the bridge on Westfield, your tank activates it’s hidden cat powers and always seems to land on its feet– er… tracks.

    “- Overlord admits that the M60 might not have been a good choice for CW reward tank”

    My only hope is that they realize this with the T95E6 sooner rather than later… PLEASE don’t give us the fugly Fatton turret on the researchable T95, Devs…

17. Hello, Russian player here. About this info:

    - apparently (if I understand it correctly), Germans could get some hightier medium premium tanks, such as Panther Ausf.F, Panther II prototype (SS: Panther II hull with Panther I turret) or East German T-54, but no more info (“details at our discretion”)

    1) you forgot to mention Leo prototype group.B
    2) this list was made by players
    3) devs stated that Ausf.F will be a upgradeable hull in the german tree
    4) they said nothing about other tanks

    • how to edit my messages? D:
      i wanted to fix some typos :<

18. “- SerB states that there are currently no guarantees, what kind of computer will you need for HD client maximum details, but states that it should work fine on GTX760 graphic card”

    PLEASE tell me that this was “tongue-in-cheek”!
    that card goes for 240 USD or more!

    • That is one of the best graphics cards availible ATM, of course WoT could run fine on it. They try to look smart once again, but they are really obvious at such moments.

19. Like a few others said I would like to see them take the M60 and put it in the tech tree and just give anyone with an M60 the T95E6. That would be a unique medium for a reward and a fairly traditional “Russian Medium” style tree for the US line with 2 fairly similar tanks with slight differences.

    It doesn’t make sense to me to have such a well known tank as a reward.

    GTX760s don’t even run WoT that great in its current form… at least not in SLI. I have 2 of them that I was sent as replacements for my 580s and I get severe frame rate issues for some reason.

    • The common opinion is that WoT is CPU bottlenecked, so it doesn’t matter how powerful your GPU is, you won’t be able to increase FPS by an upgrade (at least for now). The best way to get maximum FPS is to have an average GPU and memory, but highest possible per core CPU performance. Amount of cores is also currently irrelevant due to no real multi-core use.

      • (Obviously if you have a massive screen you’ll need a good GPU. :-P)

20. - when asked about T110E1 and T110E2 tanks, SerB points the player towards Hunnicutt’s book “Firepower”, T110 section, first two pictures

    Page ?

    • So this should be T110E1 and T110E2 right ?

      https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/775x323q90/191/y5wh.png

21. Possibility of a KPz T-54 being added? BRB, throwing Auferstanden Aus Ruinen on repeat to hype myself.

22. - Overlord admits that the M60 might not have been a good choice for CW reward tank

    Isn’t like they are going to make it researchable they screwed it up and they won’t fix it one of my fave tanks and they are gonna do it again with the E6 two top tier US Meds both got ruined for garbage rewards

23. ” – A-44 V-5 engine having too few hitpoints (it has 120, while other engines of its tier have 190+)? “No comment””

    Oddly, I never really had problems with engine damage/fires during my entirely-too-long experience in the A-44. My main problems were the astoundingly bad accuracy on the gun that made it hard to reliably hit things at close-mid range, let alone anything further, and the height+bad gun depression. The rest of the tank wasn’t bad at all.

    The tank has a 360 degree traversable turret that is mounted as far back on the hull as physically possible. It’s not especially hard to protect the engine and driver with that arrangement; certainly easier than a lot of other mediums of that tier.

24. You see me worried about skin mods? I’m don’t use them no more.

25. That weaker KV-1, I know what will be weaker. The gun, is my guess. Because the Germans tried putting a 7.5 cm KwK 40 L/48 (The long 7.5 cm from the Pz IV). So that gun might appear on the captured KV-1, making it a bit worse, but better than the historical Soviet KV-1, since that one had a ZiS-5. What I hope though is that they put a little RoF buff at least on the gun, since a heavy tank uses it. The same usually happens in WoT in normal tech trees, so why not with premium tanks?

26. hey
    guys mb u have any knews will they add any stug with 76 gun (russian occupied) or stug 4. also do u heard any plans abou8t any reward tanks 4 completing any nation tree, or getting all medals 1 class? that would b nice since not everybody has enough time to fight in clan wars. i am close to finish german tree also getting all medlas 1 class and suddenly i understand that it wont b rewarded in any form:( thats sad since i am with this game more then 2 years played more them 25k battles and now i c how people with 5k battles gets those tanks ( i know they r mostly crap but still), would b nice to get something in any form 4 loyality:)
    p.s. sry if i post it in wrong place, still new here:)

27. “he mentions “mega punishments” for early leavers”

    Well, f that. Sorry, 3 kids, real life. If I have to deal with something a game isn’t a priority. I have to deal with enough aggro from a non gamer wife, not going to bother with a game mode that does the same.

    “GTX760″

    Bugger, I’m a few generations out then, on a non upgradable system (one of the disadvantages of an iMac coming to bite me)

    “- SerB states that it will most likely be impossible to destroy a tank by burying it under the falling house rubble, because a lot of the rubble will be computed client-side (Havoc) and it is practically impossible to make such calculations server-side without crashing the servers”

    Assault exploit! Bury a tier 1 you platoon up into battle. Hold off enemy from capping long enough and they cannot get a kill all win. GENIUS! (or if it is client side is rubble damage transparent?)

28. Any news on when the captured German KV-1 will come and also long ago there was supposed to be a captured German T-34 as well? And in 8.9 there was supposed to be a German premium tank the Neubaufahrzeug but was held back for “rebalancing” I only play German tanks so I’d really love to know when they will make it to the game.

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30. quote: since the bottom/inside of the turret is not modelled

    Is that right? Somewhere (and I guess it was here) I read that shooting the underside of the turret is very rewarding as eg. IS-7 has only 20mm armor. Ofc, the question is when there is such an occasion to be able the underside of the turret but it mentions armor thickness so I guess it’s modelled (definitely to some point, if you look under the turret (on tank with noticeable overhang, assuming tanks like IS-7 or 110E5), you cant see the interior of the turret but armor plate. Or maybe it’s simply not modelled properly, maybe there is a simple polygon inserted to plug the hole (in order not to let the commander and gunner fall out of the turret) :)

    Just being curious, nothing really important.