15.6.2014

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Remember how Wargaming removed the “battles played” from 1-day and 7-day Hall of Fame (probably to cover up bots)? Here’s a list of the data by Stormshadow and Manuel1324 (make sure you set the number of rows in it to some high number to see them all). Red players in the list had their accounts scanned and they do raise “warning flags” as bots (many battles, drop in performance, really bad performance overall). Stormshadow estimates the amount of suspicious accounts found so far to around 3000.

Overlord on skill MM:

Regarding all these MMing ideas, as you can see from the discussion it’s already divided. With WoT and its huge audience around the world it’s difficult to decide on such major changes the consequences of which are not fully clear. It’s mostly about making compromises right now to satisfy the majority.

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Leagues are ok, to my thinking. They should be seasonal though, ie should be reset periodically. Also they need to account only for some relevant performance, not all-time stats.

- apparently, majority of players doesn’t even read any news on the portal
- Overlord on WG attitude towards XVM changing if XVM becomes paid service: “Regarding XVM, it might, since we are F2P and appreciate the free staff.”
- Overlord considers the gun barrel marks too easy to get apparently
- apprently, the developers are considering “renting” historical battles tanks the way the HB ammunition is “rented”


- the problem with allowing regular tanks to temporarily gain premium tank status for gold is that premium tanks are supposed to be weaker than regular tanks and this rule would be broken
- it’s possible that Wargaming Russian books might be published in English
- SU-122-44 MM was not nerfed (SS: some player was complaining that it throws him to tier 9′s too often)
- the issue where you see all your friend contacts as offline (even when they are on) is known and developers are working on it
- there are currently no issues with FPS drops on map Kharkov registered
- apparently, the bug, where you get stuck on loading the garage when exiting the battle are caused by mods. Furthermore, in some cases, removing mods does not help, because some mods do overwrite the original game files. In such a case, completely reinstalling the entire client is the only option

75 thoughts on “15.6.2014”

  1. Renting for Historical battles? That would be awesome.

    That way we wouldn’t have to chase the tanks we need for HB or to wait for hours like some of them just to play as a “top tank”

    That would totally save this mode by my opinion

    • I’d agree with that. Personally, I have limited garage space, and I have little reason to keep around tanks just so I can play HB. For me, if I amazingly enjoyed the tank, and it never gave me grief, and it feels like I do really, really well in them, I’d keep it, otherwise no, it’s a waste of space. Which leads me to not really want to buy tanks to get into HB.

      Now, say I already unlocked the tank, and had sold it off at one point or another, and to get into HB, I can just go in without needing the tank in my garage, that’ll be great. It would give me a reason to play them again.

      As it is, I don’t want to play HB cause I only have the Matilda available and I don’t want that unfair advantage :-P

    • As long as you can only rent tanks you acquired before.
      I’d rather not have someone who has never driven a Tiger II test it in HB battles while being the one Tiger II fighting against 3 ISUs…

            • 1. Have you played arty?
              2. Most arty has poor accuracy and aim time.
              3. Most people tend to notice when they get hit by arty rather then notice the 3 shells that missed them.
              4. If you’ve played arty you would know how hard it is when you have constantly reaim or wait for your team to spot enemies.
              5. If you know how to combat arty, arty is useless against you.
              And my favorite point: 6. Most people ignore the alpha that they could’ve taken if the shell penetrated.

              • I did play arty (T92, Obj. 261 in my garage) and I have to say that it’s very easy to play them compared to other vehicle types.

                More or less free XP and free credits while playing arty. And I would not really regeret if WG cancels them. Even though I got to two tier X’s.

                • Arty has a place, and more of a place if you removed gold rounds….. Let me explain!

                  in a real world scenario, what happens when you have military units that are unable to break an enemy foothold, you call in artillery. If Arty was able to be utilized like this it would be a great thing to have in all battles, and you would miss it if it was not there. Instead, what do we do? “LOAD GOLD”!

                  If the team was to fall back, let the enemy pursue, or allow arty to work on them, then everyone in the game would love arty, they would have a distinct purpose.

                  The fact of the matter is that since we run around solo or yolo all the time, arty has no clear defined role. If we used terrain and had drawn out battles arty would be more important.

      • I would even want people to get up to things like that.. it’s not like we don’t have those all around every day :P

        And besides, this way the MM would probably randomly pick who will drive which tank. Yes, there would be moaning like: “F… YOU WG!!! I’m driving T-70 for 5th time in a row!!!!”

        but hell, even that would be okay by me.

    • Then again, more people would “rent” a Tier 8… Then, there would be to many high tier tanks and MM would still take a while.

    • - apprently, the developers are considering “renting” historical battles tanks the way the HB ammunition is “rented”

      This is something i wrote days ago here, when players started to complain on HB, all tanks in this mod should be rented (player pays damage and ammo). Used tank should be researched only. This should be the same for all players, weather they own or not some tank used in HB.

    • I disagree. I believe that as long as HB is has a different queue from random battles, it won’t get make the experience any better for players who want to play HB but have no one to play with/against.

      Few players are interested in HB. In order to get those players together, and introduce it to non-HB players, HB should be a gamemode within random battles (like assault and encounter modes).
      The HB MM picks out the players from the random battle queue based on the following conditions:
      - that the HB mode is checked in the options
      - that the tank in queue may participate in HB
      - that the player enough credits to purchase the pre-defined ammunition load out
      The players picked by the MM will then have their tanks automatically switch to HB specifications, and switched back after the battle. The additional process will make the waiting time longer by a couple of seconds, but at least people who want HB can get into HBs without having to set-up private events.

      This also eliminates the problem with people queuing in HB as top tanks He’ll just be thrown into a random battle instead.

  2. I would be quite suprise if XVM was still free in half a year. This new change that you have to activate statistic its only the first stage how to make it paid service…

    • You don’t need to activate anything to make XVM work. That is only for the in-game statistics.

      • The client code is open source, hosted on Google Code. The server-side code is there too; if someone decided to set up a competing stats server they could do it tomorrow.

        The authors have expressed annoyance with all the copycats (Jimbo, Aslain, Anfield etc) who get a free ride on their stat server and don’t give credit where credit is due; hence the registration requirement.

        • Jumbo+Aslain+Anfield are not copycats….WTF you talking about? They simply are customizing XVM to there liking and sending them as modpacks.

          They are copycats, they use XVM to tweak how best to use it.

          The Reg requirement was not because this in anyway shape or form. It was so all the newbs who download XVM and dont even use the Stats portion do not waste server resources.

          So they figure if you sign in every 14 days you are an active stats user, not a newb who stumbled into XVM liked the colors and wasted server space.

          • I’m sure they at least partly cover the bandwidth costs by forcing people to activate stats every 14th day as well, due to the ads on their website

          • From Sirmax (bad Google translation)

            ” In present time we have statistics disabled in the config by default, but many ppl use 3rd party modpacks that have it enabled. This users even don’t know that they are using XVM, and they believe that modpack author is the author of all mods.”

  3. Oh, how terrible, now you have to aim at those mean Tier IX’s in your Tier VII to effectively use your Tier X medium tank DPM.
    HOW TERRIBRU!

    • T9 games where team doesn’t get ROFLstomped are great for 122, loads o’ money! I guess the complainer can’t even play the 122-44 :D

      • Hell, even if your team DOES get curbstomped you can do well; I had one where my team just failed miserably, but I racked up over 4,000 damage before finally going down; meanwhile, not a single one of my teammates, including the tier nines (save for one T30 driver), did more than 1000 damage (and even he only did just over 1000 damage).

        To be fair, it was Prokhorovka, my SU-122-44 crew was fully-trained in their camo skill, I had various equipment on it to make it even stealthier, and I was doing the traditional bush camping on the west flank that you see most TD drivers do (and frankly, it was the best choice I could have made – there was no way in hell I was going to win that game – my team was just THAT bad).

        I’ll be really frank, this thing’s OP as hell. :P

  4. Yep, and I know some of the XVM guys there and asked them about this… they just wanted to control the ppl having access to their data.
    Apparently some clever ppl used to flood their servers with requests to display their statistics on their own website…

    That’s all.

    • Yeah that makes sense I don’t think xvm would ever go to a paid service

      • still they are in their right to do so, the have no obligation whatsoever to allow people access to their server, so they can monetize the stats part if they want.

  5. What about “walking dead” bug? Currently wrecks ride all across the battlefield instead of only twitching slightly…

    • Yes. It was mentioned by the Russians several times. The official stance is “we fixed some of the issues causing this, some remain”.

      • Yesterday i saw on mountain pass when some1 tracked object 704 and i try to shot him and he was moving while he was tracked lol this is WG style what can i say.
        About the moving corpses yes i think you can see that often then in early patches

  6. - the problem with allowing regular tanks to temporarily gain premium tank status for gold is that premium tanks are supposed to be weaker than regular tanks and this rule would be broken

    Isnt the rule pretty much already broken by existing premium tanks ? For example SU-122-44 is like one of the best if not the best tier 7 TD.

      • Lowe’s main flaw is awful speed. Give a bit more HP juice and it might be fun to play prem.

        • Awful speed and very…um…’low’ dpm. It’s not a tank that does very well if it gets bumrushed by anything of its own or a higher tier, except under very specific circumstances.

          Don’t get me wrong, the Lowe OWNS under the right circumstances (I got my first, and so far only, Radley-Walters’ and Kolobanov’s Medals in my Lowe back in patch 8.9 in a tier 8 max game on Tundra), but it’s a very situational tank. Sometimes it’s great, other times…not so much.

      • Played correctly, all the tanks in the game can be great, including the gold tanks. As stated, most of them are situational, I think that the 122 gets a better rap only because it is a small fast and stealthy TD, played in the proper hands it is easy to do well, but then again, so is any TD playing in the correct hands. Hell, I make money with my T10 TD’s all the time, I don’t think it is the tank, it is the fact that they are played on the third line, if your front guys are decent, you do really well, if they are not, you still do ok.

  8. How about temporsry Premium status, in which you cant use gold ammo? U earn more, but u need more skill and cannot autoaim. Snother option would be to remove top gun from ” temporary Premium” tank, but in duch co figurstion some tanks wiould be crap.

  9. Hey SS,
    how far are you with the second part of the 1st Anniversary Competition?

    And, a bit late, thanks for the Peugeot Char 1918-Post!
    The French Tank Lobby approves :)

  10. “- there are currently no issues with FPS drops on map Kharkov registered”

    I wouldn’t agree with this one. I have older PC configuration (AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (2.6GHz), 4GB of RAM although 3.25GB is visible to WinXP, ATI Radeon HD5700 1GB VRAM), and my only two matches on Kharkov map so far were in 9-12FPS range! Completely unplayable, and my graphics is already minimised – all other maps are giving 20-30FPS…

    I do use some mods, but none of them bothers with graphics a lot, and prove of that is FPS on other maps that is bearable…

    • I’m usually not one to say this, but you probably should update your OS (or whole computer). With the drop of XP support, you are extremely vulnerable now, to various hacks and viruses. With no patches ever coming, it’d be a nightmare if there is any personal information, or important information that you store or use on it.

      Just some friendly advice.

      • No, Win XP have mostly better performance stats than Win 7. I agree that XP support is lacking but it still works pretty good. If i would upgrade Win i would go to Win 8 bcoz i has good performance stats like XP

        If u dont believe check some tech requirements of some games it says:

        Win XP ; needs 512 MB of RAM
        Win 7 ; needs 1 GB of RAM
        Win 8 ; needs 512 MB of RAM
        And stuff like that. Only Win 7 64bit can be better than Win XP but not so much….

        • Win 8 is easily the worst performing OS I’ve used the last 5 years. It’s a POS, I would very strongly advice against using it. I went back to Win 7 again after using Win 8 for a couple of months

        • Sure, Windows 8 isn’t bad…if you’re running it on a tablet. You see, Microsoft was basically forced into optimizing the OS for devices utilizing touchscreens. It’s TERRIBLE on traditional PCs.

          On the other hand, you do have a point about Windows 7, as Windows 7 is basically a patched version of Vista with most of the major flaws of its predecessor being fixed.

      • I’m not in position to change/upgrade computer at the moment :( regarding to upgrading OS, only choice would be Win7 64-bit, but I am lacking free time, as I have so much data on HDD to backup, so I’m not willing to it either… when time comes for PC upgrade/change I’ll surely install Win7 64-bit as it really gives a bit better performance…

        Thanx for advice anyway ;)

    • I have even worse PC than you (only Athlon X2 OC 3.2 GHz) and GeForce 630 GT and im running that map pretty good on 25-30 fps

      Hint: make sure u set highest resolution, it ussualy helps and also set texture quality to high it too helps

      • hmm.. I tried almost all possible combinations of graphics settings, and while at some moments raising of those two parameters helped, on some other moments it turned out worse… so now is everything on minimum (improved graphics), except lighting that is on 2nd or 3rd notch from minimum.

        I can just wait for another chance to play this map so I can see whether those 2 matches were just “exceptions to the rule” or still a problem…

    • They never register FPS problems with the new maps, yet the newer is the map, the worse the performance is for 90% of players. WG classics.

  11. Of course I don’t read the news on the WG portal, I’ve got FTR :D

  12. - apparently, the bug, where you get stuck on loading the garage when exiting the battle are caused by mods. Furthermore, in some cases, removing mods does not help, because some mods do overwrite the original game files. In such a case, completely reinstalling the entire client is the only option

    BS. I did have a mod in the past, i had to reinstall my WoT and STILL i have this bug. (today i froze out every damn time i entered the garage after battle…)

  13. what if after each 5 random game a popupscreen would come up under the battle menu with a simple question from the game, exa What tier is the Maus tank, or what Armor penetration does the Pz1C have, or something related which you can find in 15 seconds, would that be a perfectly simple solution to stop Bots? It would be easy to answer and would probably emediatly defeat the basic bot programs, if you want you could make it more complicated but still to a average internet user it would be easy to answer but to a program imposible ?

    • Unless they change the questions every week, they would need too use a captcha as it wouldnt be hard for a bot to identify the question that popped up and take the answer from a DB.

      • Exactly.. and if they make the captcha from pictures it wouldnt be 2 hard.. same words diferent pictures..

  14. They really are dense, Khrakov doesnt have FPS drops, it has microstutter/microlags that gives a very non smooth gameplay even tho FPS stays stable and high.

    And its due to WoT not pre-loading enough data into the RAM. The WoT client should use at least 2GB ram at all times, why do they stick to extremely low ram usage.

      • I do have an SSD, but its not fast enough to load things in games actively, the data must be in the RAM, sadly i dont have enough RAM to install wot on a RAMdisk. 16GB is not enough.

  15. - apprently, the developers are considering “renting” historical battles tanks the way the HB ammunition is “rented”

    Nice, and what about the crew? It has to be rented too or can we use our one crews?

    • it would be awesome to not rent a crew (otherwise i would have 30 free barack places for nothing :D )

  16. What I would like to see in historical battles:

    Player chooses a side and enters the MM que
    MM grabs a bunch of players
    Players get a point for each match they play.
    MM assigns tanks the higher the number of points a player has the better the tank he gets.
    When the players gets the highest tier tank his points are reset to zero.

    Any crew experience earn’t in HB is put into a pool. This experience is used to double the crew experience he receives in random battles.

    HB could still use a reward of their own, maybe earning some of the vehicles played in historical setup as premium tanks. Or maybe tokens to put towards opening up new nation lines (polish,etc,) or mini lines aren’t suitable for the regular tree’s.

    No mess, no fuss, just click and play. Maybe have a requirement of unlocking that nations tier 5 tank before you can play the mode, as a incentive and mini barrier.

  17. I have sent in tickets on a number of those guys. Also looks like SLYFOX54 is back to botting again after having their account wiped.

  18. Im against renting tanks for HB, it would be unfair for people that bought them. A solution to increase the number of games being played is to modify interface so it show some hints to players, as to which tanks are too many in queue , or which ones are needed to launch next game, or even a fully detailed view, since there are 6-7 for each country. I dont think its that hard to show the queue something like 6 matilda 4 valentine 3 pz III etc , instead of 10 mediums , 7 td, put together for both sides. That way people can figure out which tanks would increase the chance to start a game when they join the queue.

  19. - Overlord on WG attitude towards XVM changing if XVM becomes paid service: “Regarding XVM, it might, since we are F2P and appreciate the free staff.”

    Does that mean WG will give approval when XVM becomes paid service?

    • Opposite, they would block their API access and prevent them from gathering data.

      • It’s completely retarded, XVM has the legal right to monetize their server usage, WG has no right whatsoever to say bullshit about that.

        • Agreed, the fact that WG information is free has no impact on the fact that the stats that you are viewing through XVM in a readable manner need to be free. The fact is that the raw information from WG is free, and that is fine, what you would be paying for, if XVM becomes a paid service, is the information translated in a logical and easily readable format, that coding, does not need to be free.