Škoda-Praga ŠP-IIb

Hello everyone,

today, we are going to talk about one prototype, that could become an European (Czechoslovak) tier 3 premium medium tank, the ŠP-IIb prototype.

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ŠP-IIb, as its name suggests, was a cooperation attempt between two major rivals of the Czechoslovak armed forces industry, Škoda and ČKD (Praga). During the thirties, both companies were unsuccessful during the “IIb” (infantry support tank) program (Praga with its P-IIb, Škoda with its Š-IIb) and as a result, both firms agreed (reluctantly) on cooperation on the next attempt to design a tank for this category. The cooperation contract was signed on 30.7.1936 and the army was not against such cooperation, so the project recieved a green light.

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The initial hope of both companies was that the prototype would be ready in July 1937, but this proved to be too optimistic, as there were frequent disagreements between both companies and the specifications of the vehicle changed constantly. Originally, the army was interested in a 13 ton tank with 25mm armor all around and a 37mm gun. After the disastrous results of the Škoda Š-III and Tatra T-III designs, this was changed to 16 tons, 32mm of armor and a 47mm gun by Škoda, which however did not fit the IIb category anymore, such requirements corresponded more like to the category III (“heavy”/medium tanks).

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According to the contract, Škoda was responsible for the development of the turret and armament, the suspension and pneumatic steering. ČKD was to develop the hull, transmission, engine and electric devices. The final assembly was to be done by Škoda, but the final production was to be split 50/50 between both companies.

The prototype was read at the end of 1937. In the end, it weighed 16,6 tons and had a crew of four. It was 5,38m long, 2,44m wide and 2,29m tall, the clearance was 0,29m. It was powered by a Praga 14,235 liter NR V8 engine (and Praga-Wilson transmission with pneumatic steering, similiar to the LT Vz.35), producing 200 horsepower (with it, it could go as fast as 45,8 km/h). Its armor had the following thicknesses:

Hull: 30/20/20 mm
Turret: 30/20/20 mm

Roof and bottom were 10mm thick. It was armed with a 47mm Škoda A9 gun (the tank carried 80 rounds for it), two 7,92mm machineguns and equipped with a Vz.37 radio station.

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The official army trials started on 5.3.1938 and ended on 24.3.1938. During these trials, the vehicle did not drive more than 700 kilometers and was constantly plagued by breakdowns and other issues – the engine and the steering were especially problematic. The tank spent most of 1938 in Pilsen in repair shops – Škoda was apparently not interested in it anymore and only the threats of the price not being paid by the government forced it to start fixing it. In the end, the vehicle was repaired in February 1939, but by that time it was considered obsolete and was sent as a training vehicle to 2.PÚV (2nd Batallion of Armored Vehicles) in Vyškov. It was still there when the Germans occupied Czechoslovakia, with its frontal turret armor and gun removed. Its final fate is unknown – it was allegedly moved to Kummersdorf for testing and after that, the prototype disappeared and was likely scrapped.

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In the meanwhile, before the occupation – both Škoda and Praga worked on their own infantry tank projects of their own in parallel with this attempt (that in the end was paid by the government – it costed 1,5 million CZK, which was, back then, quite a high sum). Škoda’s own research ended with the T-21/T-22/T-23M (Turán), Praga’s development led to the V-8-H (ST Vz.39) tank, that was in the end to become the standard Czechoslovak medium tank, but by then it was much too late. Both projects used parts from this ill-fated vehicle and both took part in the 1938 tests along with the ŠP-IIb (only the V-8-H fared relatively well, Š-IIc failed as badly as the ŠP-IIb, because at that point, it was far from finished).

Source:
www.valka.cz
www.aviarmor.net
utocnavozba.wz.cz

12 thoughts on “Škoda-Praga ŠP-IIb

  1. I’m seriously having trouble being able to visually differentiate between all these Czechoslovakian tanks. They all have similar designs.
    How powerful was this 47mm Škoda A9?

    • Škoda A9
      Caliber: 47mm
      Rate of fire: 20 RPM (10 RPM aimed fire)
      Barrel length: L/43,4 (2040mm)
      AP shell weight: 2,6kg
      Muzzle velocity: 782m/s (other source: 775m/s), APCR: 1080 m/s
      Penetration (at 30 degrees):

      52mm at 100m
      48mm at 500m
      41mm at 1000m
      35mm at 1500m

      HE shell weight: 2,79 kg the entire round (1,65kg the shell itself)
      HE shell muzzle velocity: 660 m/s
      Gun weight: 420kg

      APC (Vzor 36 OPG), APCR (Panzergranate 40, developed during the war, 100mm penetration at 30 degrees, 100 meters, 58mm at 500 meters (30 deg)), HE (Vzor 36 ONG)

      • Oh thanks.
        How much information is there on the 47mm A11 gun? Was it interchangeable with the 47mm A9?
        Is it comparable to the German 5cm L60?

        • It was not interchangeable I think.

          47mm A11
          Caliber: 47mm
          Rate of fire: 25 RPM (theoretical), 12-14 RPM (aimed)
          Barrel length: L/43,4
          AP shell weight: 1,69 kg (entire shell – 2,79 kg)
          Muzzle velocity: 782 m/s
          Penetration:

          Francev (1975):
          48mm (500m, 30 deg)
          41mm (1000m, 30 deg)
          35mm (1500mm, 30 deg)

          Francev (1994)
          50mm (1000m, 90 deg)

          HE shell weight: 1,5 kg
          HE muzzle velocity: 660 m/s

    • Not really, the lowtier vehicles would be basically, well, two Vz.35 (type) suspension (tier 2), two 38t suspension (tier 3) – the rest of the stuff would be simply a premium candidate.

    • It wouldnt be so bad. Most of these projects SS presenting here, would never get over tier 3.
      But there are more original vehicles for higher tiers.