Author: Vollketten
Part I – France: http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/11/05/pate … -i-france/
Part II – UK: http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/11/07/pate … d-kingdom/
Germany is obviously a famous country for its tanks – good and bad. So, after some British ones in part 2, we should take a look at some interesting German tank ideas.
From an Italian file, this one is from the firm of Blohm and Voss back in 1968; a nice design here with a 3 man crew in the hull below the turret level, well protected by very thick frontal armour. The gun is fed by an autoloading carousel. In has two files related directly to the design with different crew-less turrets and a plan to further enhance the frontal armour with a spaced armour plate, along with some other hull variants.
The same designer responsible for some of the technical aspects of that design, Dr. Hopp, designed back in 1965 this curious affair, focusing on the means, by which the crew, seated in the hull, could use optics to direct fire from the gun and conduct observations. The armament is not specifically listed.
The tanks are at least getting uglier, right? Well, then we have this. This one is by the Porsche company from 1972, specifically referring to the extra long range fuel tanks. Let’s hope the vehicle wasn’t based on something planned.
Maybe something more useful here – grom the firm of Diehl in 1972 comes this light vehicle, capable of direct fire at ranges of up to 2000m and of shelling targets up to 8000m away indirectly. It uses unique breech system, which allows the loader to continue to load shells into the breech at the same angle, regardless of the elevation/declination of the gun barrel at the time. The purpose is to make firing as fast as possible.
The gun itself:
A high firepower, high mobility vehicle from the Porsche stable once again from July, 1972. With an unpronounceable German name and TWIN GUNS! Specified is the front-mounted engine and gearbox. In a nutshell, with the engine and gearbox at the front, the guns and breech and loading mechanisms behind it encompass the crew in a horseshoe of extra protection with an armoured central cabin within. Crew enters the vehicle through the rear side.
Another Porsche special, dating back to 1969. This time with a very low profile turret and an externally mounted cannon. Component elements of the vehicle are spaced around a smaller central extra armoured section for the crew.
So that’s not it for Germany yet and frankly these were perhaps a little too sensible, I’m sure I have something less useful for Germany still to come for later.
nice article
anyway is anyone else unable to post anything on forums?
Nobody can post on EU forums atm outside of newbie section. If it lasts longer, I’ll post about it later.
I have not been able to post on the forums for a couple of months now. I wasn’t banned, I petitioned Support and asked for help, tried three different browsers and WG Support was as stumped as I was: there is a “Post” button, but no text field to type in. :/
I post i mods so i can ;)
But “tank” twin guns get some associate for me to the Mammoth tank xD
http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Mammoth_tank_%28Red_Alert_1%29
Or this:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/86/VT1-2-2.jpg
Jep, looks for me also after Leo 3, but here: http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://www.panzerbaer.de/types/pix/bw_kpz_leopard_3_vt_2_augustdorf-1317.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.panzerbaer.de/types/bw_kpz_3_gvt-a.htm&h=330&w=699&tbnid=sj9rfa76IXZXzM:&zoom=1&tbnh=90&tbnw=191&usg=__r0vQkADvOyv7SrLPTrQMJYfvYm4=&docid=VvRTfTes0QLiJM&sa=X&ei=t_RlVOC8PIPUOOHggZAP&ved=0CCMQ9QEwAA&dur=196 are better screenies than that 1 in the hall:P
Voll u know if it has sth. to do with the tank from above?
Possible Leo3. ;) There were several studies and prototypes, the so called “Versuchsträger”. The Porsche Design aparently didn’t make it to the building stage, but the similar Krupp/MaK Design did get 2 Prototypes. More on the Krupp/MaK Design here (in german): http://www.whq-forum.de/cms/405.0.html / http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VT_tank
The Vehicle above (from Panzerbär) should be one of the GVT Vehicles from the same “Series”.
TL;DR: Prototypes, Twin 120mm Guns, 6 Shot Autoloader per Gun. ^^
It’s related in some fashion to a whole series of twin gun German TD concepts of the era.
What is so absurd about them? I would rather call them interesting, except for the one with extra fuel tanks.
Hmm..nothing all that odd here. Where’s the bizzare 30s and 40s designs that Hitler had his fingers all over, because insanity?
You mean the Panther and Tiger? lol
Oh those are coming in Germany Part Two don’t worry
Most of those early concepts represent current projects with crews seperated in the hull and fully automatc turrets with weapons and optics/electronics.
Once again – german engineering ahead of its time. :)
Too bad fully automated turrets were already invented and in use since the mid to late 40′s
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“ahead of its time” is used when Germany does it, impractical and overly complex for the time period when anybody else does it of course.
why deny the scientific fact that german engineers were simply the best ones at that time? why do you think did soviet and american technologies make such a jump suddenly after ww2?
You’re one of those kids that credit Germany for the B-2, huh?
Ubergerman fanboy spotted.
T-50
3-man turret.
WAY AHEAD OF IT’S TIME.
This isn’t exactly “absurd”, because the idea is used IRL nowadays.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1128_Mobile_Gun_System
And here I thought we would see absurd German designs like the Ratte and Monster…
Actually, half of these tanks look usefull, the first one looks even awesome.
Blohm and Voss back in 1968. at some point all countries tested this. clear advantages are smaller turet, lower weight. also front engine and transmission give extra protection. this is not fail at all. I would say, this is quite interesting tank!
Blohm and Voss in 1968. at some point all countries tested this. clear advantages are smaller turet, lower weight. and that armor looks good. I would say, this is quite interesting tank!
So the VT tank ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VT_tank
How can you not love Blohm Und Voss? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blohm_%26_Voss_BV_141 This might just be one of the sexiest airplanes ever built!
“A high firepower, high mobility vehicle from the Porsche stable once again from July, 1972. With an unpronounceable German name and TWIN GUNS!”
Kampfpanzer 3… Versuchsträger… Gefechtsfeldversuchträger…
Maximalbefriedigung.
Am I clear, Herr Vollketten?
If not… Schiesse.
The correct name is something like Double Barrelled Casement Tank – ‘Doppelrohrkasemattpanzer’
To be fair, these are a lot less ridiculous than part 1 and 2 tanks
Except the double gun one. It’s plain silly.
Well these are the good German ones. Don’t worry you won’t be dissapointed.