It’s a Fake: T 27


Hello everyone,

it’s been a while, hasn’t it. The appearance of the newest Czechoslovak premium MBT prompted me to make a post because, in case you haven’t noticed from all those years before, Czechoslovak tanks are kinda my thing and I was involved in the creation of the CZ branch all those years ago. So, let’s get the most important message out of the way first:

T 27 is a fake, much like most of the Italian and Polish branches. It never existed, even on paper, it was made up by Wargaming to fill the premium slot.

Furthermore, the article I linked above states:

The Škoda T 27 (Czechoslovak, Tier 8, premium, autoloader) is already in the patch 1.5 files. It was originally slated for release with the Czech Medium tech tree branch. Something went wrong and it has made it into the game two and a half years late.

This is also not true to the best of my knowledge. This vehicle was never intended as a part of the initial line, even as a premium, because the line was supposed to be sort of realistic, possibly sort of as the last one (not sure about the Swedes but the guy who helped with it, sp15, was also critical, hard to say). The autoloaders, for example, are a huge stretch but hey, whatever helped bring them in, right.

What happened was, roughly a year ago, someone from WG came to me and asked vaguely for possible hightier medium candidates. I was like uhhhhh… there aren’t that many. There was that turret developed for Porsche’s Tiger, there was the T-51 tank by ČKD (sister project to the T-50) and that was pretty much it. The latter – well, not much is known about it, but I suggested it as a possible candidate. Then nothing happened and next thing you know, we get this tank.

So, what I think we are looking at is basically an upscaled version of the T-17 light tank.

Even the official description says so (in Russian):

My main gripe is that the T-17 was never developed or considered for conversion into a medium tank. There are no resources or documents that would support this theory, to my knowledge anyway.

This is, furthermore, supported by the following:

  • 88mm autoloader was never considered or developed for any project, the gun was not very historical, its addition to the Czechoslovak line was suggested by me as one of the early drafts but a German trophy gun would definitely not be used for an advanced project like that (keep in mind that T-17 is the zenith of Czechoslovak tank design, one of its last projects)
  • Whoever named it just assumed the wartime nomenclature carried over at Škoda (2 signifies Medium Tank, 7 signifies 7th project of the weight category). It didn’t and the name makes no sense because T-17 was the 7th project of the light tank line (T-16 was a heavily modified T-15), while there was no Škoda T-26. Its predecessor at Škoda would be T-40 or T-50 even.
  • Come on, it’s just an upscaled T-17

Now, you might be asking, why does this even matter? So Wargaming produces fakes, who cares. It’s a game. Well, yes… it is a game, but one with tremendous cultural impact. I wonder how many Polish kids will grow up with fantasies of amazing post-war heavy tank projects when the reality was… let’s say not as kind.

Anyway, enough ranting. I should come up with more interesting topics I guess.

3 thoughts on “It’s a Fake: T 27

  1. good to read from you again. thanks for shining a light on WG’s sometimes shady schemes and exposing their half-assed attempts to pump more moneymakers into the game … when they should instead make low tiers playable and competitive. still soooo many real life tanks that should be in there.
    just waiting for the day until I can finally drive my Finnish BT-42 ;)

  2. I’m split on that matter, on one hand i understand wargaming adding more and more fake tanks and as a player new tanks are a huge driver in my continues interest in the game (been playing it for over 7 years now)on the other hand even previously when wot stayed fairly close to historical facts we could see more made up tanks from wot pop up in many places over the internet. Although i do think that unlike back in the days people now realise wg is making up tanks and its no at historically accurate game.
    Either way its their game and new tanks keep it running so they will continue adding more made up tanks

  3. On finding that the T-27 is fake you need 20 s on Google (joke), but seriously – already that 88 mm Autoloader has to know that it’s stupid – by the time we were already under Russian control and would hardly introduce a tank with a German cannon and non-compatible ammunition.
    But to solve whether any tank is real or not-it made sense so 5 years back and at 100% is no longer useless after a completely exhausted Polish branch where, for example, a pre-war project which is so timeless that there is a tower on it, which surely Russians copied and put on the IS-3 etc….