8.8.2013

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- confirmed: RU second medium branch will start from T-34 and end with T-54, Object 140 will be a tier 10, unlockable from T-54, Object 430 and the other T9 tank will come later
- penetration reduction with distance is set for each shell individually
- both shells for VK3601 Konisch gun are basically historically subcaliber SerB states that both have subcaliber normalisation, as far as he remembers

- the only shells with different ricochet angle are HEAT shells
- SerB states that T-50 has scout MM, because it is a lot better than the Covenanter or the T-80, T-50 won’t get reduced MM
- SerB states that the way to catch fire is the same for both diesel and gasoline gas tanks, because it was roughly like that in real life
- WoT engine BigWorld will support active objects on maps (such as moving trains), but this will be done only in minimal amounts, for example trains would introduce another random element to the game and that’s not what the developers want
- the main features that are being worked on will be disclosed soon
- SerB confirms that if WoT intensity is taken as a base, WoWp game intensity is (WoT intensity + 1) and WoWs intensity will be (WoT intensity – 1)
- WG was the biggest Belarussian IT export firm for 2012
- players being angry with T-50-2 removal? “How terrible…”
- German A7V won’t be implemented for now

- SerB states that it’s technically not possible to completely eliminate all the arcade mode aim circle getting “stuck” somewhere: “Use the sniper mode”
- kill-per-battle statistic for tanks is being collected, but WG won’t disclose official numbers
- the mechanism where players (not tanks, but account) are able to select maps they don’t want to play was scrapped
- Object 103 is not planned for forseeable future
- SerB states that while WG generally doesn’t disclose tank weakpoints, SU-100M1 has weakspots on the mantlet close to the gun (not the gun itself tho)
- currently, the crew model for the EU tree is that the nations can use only their tanks (for example Italians can use only Italian tanks), but this is not final, it will be sorted once the tree becomes actual. This model does NOT concern the other branches, eg. Soviet crews won’t be usable in German tanks etc.
- ingame mission (event) status (SS: as in “you have killed 15 tanks out of 30 needed for example) will be implemented, starting from 8.8
- SU-26 won’t be completely removed from the game (SS: player – “it’s so bad I can’t even watch it”)
- M6A2E1 is a promo tank, it doesn’t get the credit bonus like the regular premium tanks
- there are many tanks left that will be introduced to WoT
- the M103 203mm frontal armor is the connection (weld) between armor plates, on other places the armor is thinner
- in real life, tankers could load the tank with more shells than it was proscribed. WG tested this as a perk/skill, but unsuccessfuly (trouble with crew transfers)
- spent shell ejection after Havok introduction might be implemented
- there is another tier 10 Soviet TD left to be implemented, but it won’t come anytime soon
- SerB states that the SU-100 122mm gun is more historical than the King Tiger’s 105mm, it won’t be removed
- apparently the Waffentrager E-100 will have the same maximum speed as the current E-100, because the gearbox won’t change
- “Gott mit Uns” German inscription won’t be added – first Storm said it’s because it was written on Waffen SS belt buckles, but when confronted with the fact it’s not true, he said it still doesn’t mean this will appear in game
- dynamic tank stats will be implemented eventually, but the German TD branch will be implemented sooner
- there will be some changes in Soviet branches, but Storm will not tell for now, same goes for how the German branches will look
- Superpershing will be changed in 8.8 apparently
- there will be German rebalance in 8.8 too
- Tiger I will be changed in 8.8
- both Tigers will get maximum speed buff in 8.8
- Storm states that the Object 140 will be different from T-62A
- the Japanese medium premium Chi-Nu Kai will be available for supertesters in 8.8 test
- tier 9 rear-turret Object 430 tank is still being researched
- T-34-3 will have the 122mm gun despite the fact it was earlier rendered with a 100mm gun

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  2. - apparently the Waffentrager E-100 will have the same maximum speed as the current E-100, because the gearbox won’t change

    well Crap

  3. ” – the main features that are being worked on will be disclosed soon”
    It’s soon since 2 months ago….

  6. confirmed: RU second medium branch will start from T-34 and end with T-54, Object 140 will be a tier 10, unlockable from T-54, Object 430 and the other T9 tank will come later

    So T-54 can unlock 2 tanks? what is this?

    • Who knows? I was thinking that they would have introduced an incomplete line without tier IX and X, I really wasn’t expecting this madness.

      • Guessing they are implementing incomplete branch for now, ending in T-54 and T-62A. Missing tier 9 and 10 will be added when they are finished/done/whatever

        Though I wouldn’t mind farming next 200k to get another T10 med on T-54

        • Object 140 is the new Tier 10. The second line goes: A-43 (6) -> A-44 (7) -> Object 416 (8) -> T-54 (9) -> Object 140 (10).

          T-54 will unlock 2 Tier 10 tanks.

          • Thats great news. I really don’t want that rear turret crap and have enough XP for Object 140 left on T-54!

    • Sounds really weird, but lets hope that you will get the other T9 researched too if you have the T54 :)

    • It’s your time widow of a few weaks to getting two tier 10s for the grind of just one.

      Since I dont have the T54 yet I will start immidiately

  7. >- there is another tier 10 Soviet TD left to be implemented, but it won’t come anytime soon
    Any idea/rumour about which TD he’s referring to?

  8. - there will be German rebalance in 8.8 too
    - Tiger I will be changed in 8.8
    - both Tigers will get maximum speed buff in 8.8

    Mh, less armor, lower pen and bigger weak spots?

  9. - T-34-3 will have the 122mm gun despite the fact it was earlier rendered with a 100mm gun

    • Good, I don’t want some boring Type 59 clone, and the 122mm gun will help keep some of the baddies away.

    • In the nick for having embarassed themselves and their uniforms with bizarre drunken antics.

  13. - apparently the Waffentrager E-100 will have the same maximum speed as the current E-100, because the gearbox won’t change

    Despite the Waffentrager E-100 will be SUBSTANTIALLY lighter, it should be substantially faster… the only thing the gearbox similarity will accomplish is gear ratio and acceleration rates having to push around less weight.

    • Acceleration =/= top speed. So WT E-100 might be like KT, slow but rolling these 30km/h almost all the time.

    • That is not how it works. If a gearbox is made for a top speed of 20kmh, then it wont safely go faster then that even if the tank is made lighter. The reason is that the gears are after all connected to the engine and if you make the engine to faster then safe, then it’s likely to break. Just try and take your car out and go real fast at gear 1, the engine will make pained nosies.

      • well mister, you dont think over your own edge.

        IF you are building tanks you are not just taking a plan and copy paste it for years and years.

        If you want to get a E100 converted into a mobile heavygunned-SPG even with using the same engine and even with using the game gearBOX you are still able to change the GEARS size – also called transmission – and thus changing the maxspeed the tank can go in trade for parts of the acceleration.

        you can do that because you ae gonna BUILD that thing.

        man some ppl gotta get some BASIC KNOWLEDGE and COMMON SENSE!

        And dude remember: german tank engineers were damn smart, but wg rather buffs the image of stalin.

        • For “damn smart” they sure persistently stuck with a problematic drivetrain layout that consistently produced vehicles excessively large and thus heavy for the performance delivered… and yes, I know it was mechanically more efficient; didn’t keep everyone else from dropping it for good practical reasons.

          Also, redesigning the gearbox would rather go against the red thread of the E-series, namely maximum standardisation and sharing of parts. Just sayin’.

  14. On one hand I will get to play awesome T-54 to unlock another tier 10 WITHOUT A GRINDING WHOLE branch.
    On other hand, I wont have the chance to play rear turreted medium tanks.

    Still, if thats what WG do – thanks for tier 10 :D

  16. Zdravím Silente,
    Tak jestli to dobře chápu, tak v 8.8 nebude Object 430, místo něj bude Object 140, který půjde vyzkoumat z T-54.
    Pak někdy přesunou Objecta 140 o tier níž (na IX.) a na X. dají nový tank, což bude Object 430? nebo ho úplně zahodili a dají tam něco jiného?

    Díky za odpověď :) Whiskey1939

    • Objekt 140 bude nejspíš tier 10 pořád, bude vyzkoumatelný z T-54, na kterou se bude napojovat kromě T-44 taky nová osmička, Objekt 416. Časem se napojení Objektu 416 na T-54 asi zruší a místo něj příjde na devítku prototyp Objektu 430, s Objektem 430 jako takovým na tieru 10. Objekt 140 na 10 pak zůstane.

  18. - SU-26 won’t be completely removed from the game -

    with the stock gun, its still a dangerous sealclubber

  19. “- SerB states that T-50 has scout MM, because it is a lot better than the Covenanter or the T-80, T-50 won’t get reduced MM”

    I keep seeing Pz38nA in high tier battles all the time. Pz38nA is inferior to Covenanter and most likely also T-80, what’s the reason for it having scout MM (despite the fact that it is in German tech tree) ?

  20. - confirmed: RU second medium branch will start from T-34 and end with T-54, Object 140 will be a tier 10, unlockable from T-54, Object 430 and the other T9 tank will come later

    I assume this is temporary, until the tier IX is found.

    Those interested in the Obj 140, but most likely not interested in the tier IX should take advantage, I guess.

    • They will introduce a new T9 and Object 430 (T10) later. So there will be 3 T10 Soviet mediums in the future.

  21. OMG if they make premium tier 1 WW1 tanks i would soo much buy them!
    Even if they are crap, wich they will be, but thats to prevent sealclubbing.

  23. Are there any plans at all to introduce new french branches (AMX 65t or AMX 30)?

      • Wasn’t it said to be after the japanese a while ago? I hope so, the french are getting no love, they have been untouched, sans a tier 8 prem, for a year.

        • If i recall, the current order is:
          USSR second medium line
          German second TD line
          Japanese
          Pan-Europe

          • There will probably be a bunch of stuff between the Japanese and the Pan-Euro line, mainly because WG doesn’t like to implement 2 countries in the same year. The Chinese line being an exception.

  24. I wonder what Hitler would think about the H.H update containing a minor German buff? Sounds like a good idea for a video…

  26. i guess the t-34-3 wont be a decent money maker after all

    that gun that depression with tier 10 MM

    your gonna have to put your whole tank in harms way to get a shot off (which will likely bounce) and in tier 10 games that is suicide

    *sigh*

    but despite this it still makes the t-34-2 look like trash

  28. SerB does talk bollocks, WOW -1 lol, the game content in WOT and the engine running it is poor in comparison to WOW, how he can try to compare the 2 just shows what a stupid prick he is

    • He didn’t say WOW dumbass, he said WoWS which is true considering the speed of the game.

    • Dude, I have heard some BS before, but WoW’s engine being better than WoT’s ??!?@?
      Are you even sane? For real even?

  29. >> – “Gott mit Uns” German inscription won’t be added – first Storm said it’s because it was written on Waffen SS belt buckles, but when confronted with the fact it’s not true, he said it still doesn’t mean this will appear in game

    “Because NO!” – Russian logic…

  30. Any links to play style and stat projections on the 140? I had seen some numbers previously, but that was assuming the tank would be a tier 9. On paper it certainly looked like it would be a tier 9, and very comparable to the T-54… I’m curious as to how they will make the tank distinct from the T-62A, the 121 and the 430.

    Russian Medium Fanboi

  31. has there been any news about their investigation of the IS-6′s top speed? As I recall, they are using the wrong IS-6′s top speed; the Obyekt 252 (the one ingame) could reach 43 km/h in real life.

    • Tiger could reach 40 km/h irl too, but it took them 2 years to finally buff it. However since IS-6 is russkie fag tank i have no doubts they might buff it as soon as they see a chance to do it. And it certanly doesn’t deserve the buff since it’s already on the border of being OP with that piece of shit magic shell eating armor it has all around.

      • I shot an IS-6 with the SU-100M1′s stock gun just last night.
        Sure is strong medicine in that armor. *eyeroll*

  32. - apparently the Waffentrager E-100 will have the same maximum speed as the current E-100, because the gearbox won’t change
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    Yea, like we expect Krauts to be actually useful. Good luck geting away from enemies while having to reload your autoloader. Also good luck with bouncing anything with the crap armor.

    - “Gott mit Uns” German inscription won’t be added – first Storm said it’s because it was written on Waffen SS belt buckles, but when confronted with the fact it’s not true, he said it still doesn’t mean this will appear in game
    ________________________________
    Yea, when you can’t win an argue, just use the “it’s my ball, therefore i decide who’s playing and who isn’t” argument. Fucking stalinist pigs. Personally i don’t give a fuck about all those inscriptions, but if the commies can have their stalinist inscription because they are historical, then why the fuck not can’t germans have their “historical” inscriptions. Oh yea, i forgot. They killed SerBocunt’s ancestors.

  33. Yes, because we need more Chinese premium tanks that everyone will fall all over themselves to buy. And we also need more Russian mediums that will likely be OP, gg WG.

    • The Wehrmacht’s tended to be pretty apolitical from what I gather…
      Also, they’re already in dumbass. (What’s Nyilasok – a new detergent?)

    • My guess is that the two medium lines converge on the T-54 and then branch out again, so you’d be able to go for both the T-62 and Obj 140 from it.

    • I don’t know, how about actually reading it and the comprehend said info you read. Seriously, how fucking lazy/stupid are ppl these days?

      • How about there is no info about it in the header, and i dont always read every comment?

        But thanks for your kindness.

  36. “Gott mit uns” was written on Wehrmacht belts. The SS had “Meine Ehre heißt Treue”.
    Apropos
    I do not think that the majority of the Waffen-SS were criminals.
    I, however, do not want this inscription ingame, because i have a little sense of decency.
    Unlike Stalinists.

    • I can sort of get people who pretend that the Wehrmacht was made up completely of honorable innocent little angels, but giving members of the SS a chance? Really?

      • To be fair, AFAIK that lot also had everything from rabid true believers to guys who’d signed up for the “elite” rep and adventure to at least one peculiar “undercover good guy” I’ve read of – dude was actually a Communist and joined just to learn what actually had happened to a relative who’d been killed in those creepy asylum-inmate euthanasia programs. He ended up in the medical services where he invented a combined water purifier and clothing delouser, which in turn earned him a tour of Auschwitz as a technical consultant on the latter…
        Kind of took to drinking after that and became borderline obsessed with getting the word out about the Holocaust. :/

  37. “German balance”, and what the fuck might that mean actually? Nerf them even more so they get even lower WR compared to the russian tanks?

  38. - WG was the biggest Belarussian IT export firm for 2012.

    What a third world country, wow.

    • From what I gather its other major exports are A) comely young women to very seedy enterprises in wealthier countries B) mercenaries to random African bush wars.
      Yeah, that’s pretty shitty. :/

    • I sometimes wonder what percentage of the Belarussian economy is made up of Wargaming.

      Maybe that’s why SerB acts the way he does, he’s the Belarussian equivalent of an oil baron.

  40. “- WoT engine BigWorld will support active objects on maps (such as moving trains), but this will be done only in minimal amounts, for example trains would introduce another random element to the game and that’s not what the developers want”
    There are alrdy moving windmills on redshire for example that will block the shots of you try to shoot at it

  41. - WG was the biggest Belarussian IT export firm for 2012

    It’s BELARUSIAN. ;)

    Belarussian would be correct if country was named Belarussia.

      • That must be why they’ve long made a killing selling quality weapons every which way.

        • Meh, even that is part of history. At least SIPRI being based in Stockholm looks less ridiculous now that they less weapons than Spain.

          • …what? Spelling mistakes would be one thing, but leaving out whole *words* made that indecipherable.

  43. You fucking right we got alof of that, if anything we got human right, which commie countries dont.

  44. “- currently, the crew model for the EU tree is that the nations can use only their tanks (for example Italians can use only Italian tanks), but this is not final, it will be sorted once the tree becomes actual. ”
    —So each nation has a complete line of only say Czech tanks or Italian tanks rather than switching back and forth?
    The whole idea is pants frankly. What vehicle are they planning on using as the technical predecessor of all of europes tanks?
    The only way I can see a euro-tree working is with totally separate and independent national branches which can include multiple lines of TD’s, heavies and lights etc. Only where say an Italian tank was a copy from say a Czech tank should cross transfer between nationalities occur.
    We have had a touch of bother with the Stalin thing. Just wait until some of these nations have to switch to another (usually neighbouring) country and watch the rage ensue.

  45. SilentStalker, do you believe that we may be able to go from the T-34 to the Obj 140 in the future? Lets say, when they have the tier 9? I dont want to buy a T-54 again :P .

  46. so the T62A will be removed or recplaced by OBJ.140?
    What will happen with my researched T62A ( not bought) and elited T54?

    • That’s…not what’s happening. The T-54 will lead to another tier 10 tank.

      • Correct. That’s how both lines will look for now
        1st medium line: T-34-85 -> T-43 -> T-44 -> T-54 -> T-62A
        2nd medium line: A-43 -> A-44 -> Object 416 -> T-54 -> Object 140

  47. - “Gott mit Uns” German inscription won’t be added – first Storm said it’s because it was written on Waffen SS belt buckles, but when confronted with the fact it’s not true, he said it still doesn’t mean this will appear in game

    “How Terrible”

    http://i.imgur.com/47OpCpg.jpg

  48. The motto Gott mit Uns has been used since the Prussian army. And also the waffen ss had my honor is loyality.

  50. Tiger 2 will get it’s speed buff in 8.8?!

    Damn…bring this patch faster WG!!!

    Now really, this patch becomes more and more interesting every-day.

    • Lets hope it doesnt end like that we buff your tigers but now you dont need your current top engine. Or some another secret nerf like 2x worse ground resistance.

  53. I like that the German TD Branch is going to finally be released probably after 8.8. I hope they don’t delay it again to be dicks..

  54. any idea how the german tecee will look like in 8.8,
    wana start grinding in advance…
    mfg eXterminus

  55. “- in real life, tankers could load the tank with more shells than it was proscribed. WG tested this as a perk/skill, but unsuccessfuly (trouble with crew transfers)”
    This would be awesome on otherwise mostly useless Loaders. Right off the top of my head, Locusts and both premium Matildas would benefit greatly from more ammo stowage.

    Kind of wonder how it’d be balanced, though. Create an additional ammorack spot in the collision model, perhaps? Slightly increase tank’s weight?

  57. - confirmed: RU second medium branch will start from T-34 and end with T-54, Object 140 will be a tier 10, unlockable from T-54, Object 430 and the other T9 tank will come later

    i got lost – have you a tree image?

    Does it really mean I can ignore the whole branch and just grind 200k experience on t-54 I currently have and the first day after 0.8.8 comes I can buy new tier 10?