Two ISU-130 vehicles

Hello everyone,

today, we’re going to have a look at two vehicles, that share the same designation: ISU-130. One of them is however highly suspicious. First, the historical one:

ISU-130 (Object 250)

This is probably the “real” ISU-130 it is perfectly suitable to be a World of Tanks premium Soviet tank destroyer.

It was built around the ISU platform (based on the Iosif Stalin heavy tank) in 1944 in Plant No.100. The lead designer of the project was the famous J.Kotin (responsible for the most famous KV and IS series tanks and also for some of the SU and ISU SPG’s, being the main designer of Soviet heavies and SPG’s of the era). The main raison d’etre of this project was the need to improve the then-contemporary Soviet 122mm (A-19) and 152mm (ML-20) self propelled guns’ firepower.

Apart from another project (ISU-122-1, which you might know as the ISU with the BL-9 gun), there was an idea to mount the 130mm marine gun on the ISU platform. The 130mm marine gun B-13 was then successfully converted for land use and redesignated S-26. This gun then replaced the D-25S on one experimental ISU-122S chassis. Later, another version of this gun was made – its caliber was changed to 122mm in order to fire the standard 122mm shells, this version was designated “S-26-1″ and was mounted on another experimental SPG, ISU-122-3.

One prototype was made, with factory trials beginning in October 1944 and a month later, trials moved to military proving ground. The trials showed some problems with the gun, which had to be re-worked and this caused a significant project delay. In the end, the project was ready only after the war was over. In June 1945, new trials took place. This time, they proved that the firepower of the ISU-130 is greater than the one of previously completed heavy SPG’s. There were other issues however: the gun proved too long and when driving thru rough terrain, it had the tendency to hit the ground. Furthermore, no other land guns in the Red Army used the 130mm caliber and it was thought that the different marine caliber would cause problems in supplying. The 130mm S-26 gun also proved not to be better (but equal) to the 122mm S-26-1 and BL-9 guns. That, along with the fact the war was over, led to the cancellation of the whole project. In the end, the vehicle was not accepted in service and the prototype ended up in Kubinka museum.



Weight: 47 tons
Crew: 4 or 5
Armor: 60mm (casemate) (90mm hull) front, 75/90mm sides, 60mm rear
Engine: 520hp V-2-IS
Maximum speed: 35km/h
Gun: 130mm S-26 (11,7 degrees traverse, -1,2 depression, 14,2 elevation, 33kg shell, 900m/s velocity)

In World of Tanks terms, it’s probably a very good tier 8 premium candidate. The gun would fit, the finetuning can be done by the soft stats. Of course, the depression wouldn’t provide much comfort, but the massive firepower could make up for that.

There was however one more ISU-130 in the Soviet arsenal:

ISU-130 Model 1945


Now, this is a bit confusing. I am not an expert on Soviet tanks, but I haven’t found any mention of this vehicle in any other (limited) Russian vehicles literature I have. Apparently, it’s supposed to be a late war SPG (constructed in the same plant as the other ISU-130 – Zavod No.100), based on IS-3 (!) chassis, tested in June 1945 to August with the marine B-13 gun (the book specifically mentions B-13, not S-26). This gun was equipped with a muzzle brake to reduce the recoil (note that there is no muzzle brake on the picture for some reason). It was allegedely built in one prototype, weighting 47 tons (notice exactly the same weight as the “previous” ISU-130). The book describes that it suffered from the same problems as the other ISU-130 (too long barrel, low maneuverability, and bad traverse angles) and was – just like the other ISU-130 – scrapped after the war.

The drawing looks a LOT like the ISU-152 Model 1945 (known to the WoT players as Object 704), which WAS partially based on the IS-3 tanks. I haven’t found (even on Russian sites and in Russian books) any mention of arming the Object 704 with a B-13 gun however, so I somehow suspect that the author of the book mashed up Object 704 and ISU-130 together, producing this result.

According to wikipedia and the book, the vehicle was of the same height as the Object 704 (original ISU-130 was taller), it used the same engine as the original ISU-130 (but – to be fair – so did the Object 704), its armor roughly corresponds to Object 704, but the gun (B-13, mind you) has the same traverse, depression and elevation as the ISU-130. How did they manage to archieve that in a clearly sloped superstructure (when ISU-130 had much less superstructure slopes and was taller), I have no idea, but I think it’s really suspicious.

Does anyone have any info on this vehicle?

Characteristics, according to the book:

Weight: 47 tons
Crew: 4 or 5
Armor: unknown
Engine: 520hp V-2-IS
Maximum speed: 35-40km/h
Gun: 130mm B-13 (11 degrees traverse, -2 depression, 15 elevation, 33kg shell, 870m/s velocity)

A.V.Karpenko – Tyazhelie Samokhodnie Artileriskie Ustanovki (Heavy self propelled artillery vehicles)

21 thoughts on “Two ISU-130 vehicles

  1. Well. Interesting to say the least, but my Su100y would still be more fun and more competitive. The 130mm gun is a beast, but at t8 the regular Isu is still better I suppose, despite its lower rof.

  2. The casemate and frontal armor shape actually resembles SU-122-54. Looks very suspisious though.

    • One of the few times I am all for introducing a made up vehicle is the SU-130-62. It makes TOO much sense gameplay wise.

      • Doesnt make any sense at all. Same armor, much slower vehicle (lengthned chassis + bigger gun + same or lower powered engine) with virtually the same penetration. I dont see a definitive upgrade over 122-54 here.

        • Who said it will be slower :O . It might be similar in mobility to the SU 122 54 same way T-62A is a lot like the T-54. Armour is not that important. What will be is stealth, mobility, and DPM/accuracy. It also looks more natural to have SU 122 54 and then a SU 130 62… if only the Su 122 44 was there as well :P

      • I’m all for it too. Don’t like the looks of obj 263 at all and it’s out of nowhere seeing this branch to be a “medium based TD’s” and it’s an IS-7

        • The object 263 was supposed to be in a different branch, but WG had to change it because of tier 10 TD’s.

  3. I have found a webpage witch mentions the ISU-130 model 1945:

    However, the informations isn’t too much:

    “ISU-130 Model 1945 (March 1945 to End of War)

    NOTES: The M1945 version mounted an active infrared system for the main armament.”

    Looking at another page, I found what they call “Object 250 or 243″: (only pics)


    • Object 250 is the original ISU-130. Object 243 is ISU-122-1 (or ISU-122BM), which is a normal ISU vehicle, experimentally armed with the 122mm BL-9, neither of which look like on the picture and neither of which have parts from IS-3

  4. 1,2 gun depression? Worse then that of the Chinese, might as well just nerf it to 0 depression while we’re at it

    • You would never Be able to Hit elc amx, thats quite Funny actually, a Big Tank only buster :D

  5. Very interesting, but these indeed would have to be premiums.

    I can’t imagine any way that these vehicles could end up not being outright inferior to the Jagdpanther II

  6. Historical ISU-130 should be a tier 8 premium TD. In that case, the tank will be like a stock ISU-152.
    130 gun….must be better than BL-9S and worse than BL-10. (Remember in-game ISU-152 has a BL-9S gun pen: 225/265/68, dmg: 390/390/465).

    But, if the 130 have the same statistics than BL-9S, its ok for me.

    ISU is my favorite tank, and obviously, I will buy this premium tank destroyer :)

  7. I’m thinking the ISU-130 model 1945 is just an early artist’s impression of the Obj. 704. My guess is someone tacked on a mix of the info from the ISU-130 and Obj. 704 in an effort to explain the drawing.

  8. About “ISU-130 Model 1945″, Steven J. Zaloga puts that picture in his book “Soviet Tanks and Combat Vehicles of World War Two”. The book says: “The ISU-130 assault gun was built on the IS-3 chassis, but none entered servide before the war’s conclusion. This is an artist’s impression of the vehicle”.

    Zaloga also makes a reference (same book) to the ISU-130:
    “Dukhov’s team developed the ISu-130, with a 130mm naval gun on an ISU-122 chassis, but this was not produced until after the war. “.

    If we take the Osprey (I have it in spanish, so I’m going to translate +- )about the IS (same author): “The ISU-130 mounted the 130mm S-26 gun, a naval gun adaptation. The main advantage of this gun againt the 152mm was the lower size of the ammunition, so it could carry 25 shells instead of 21. A modified version of this gun, the S-26-1m was also installed in a ISU-122Sm the ISU-122BM. The 130mm S-26-1 gun had a long barrel with accelerated the shell to 1000m/s improving penetration. None of these improved assault guns were acepted for production.”

    That’s all the iformation I have in my own library.

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