Hello everyone,
in this post, I will be referring to the earlier post today about the E-25 discount. If you haven’t, please go read it first, so you know what I am talking about.
Can we continue then? Good.
So, I was wondering about the 24 percent and I asked in the Czechoslovak section – and Dargnon (Czech community organizer) replied, explaining (or, rather defending) the principle (if you understand Czech, you can read it in original there).
It works like this:
WG EU takes the EUR to gold ratio from the price of the 2500g package, which seems pretty arbitrary to me. The logic is as follows:
The E-25 is 30 percent off. That’s 6700 – 30 percent = 4690 gold
The slot is 50 percent off (Christmas event), that’s 150 gold
Together it’s 4840 gold
On EU server (for EU residents), you get 2500 gold for 9,95 EUR, which gives you 251,2 gold for 1 EUR.
4840/251,2 = cca 19,2 EUR, which is 76 percent of the original E-25 price in EUR (25,4). Hence the 24 percent discount.
Am I the only one who thinks that the decision to use the gold-per-euro ration from the 2500g packet is just odd?
No, its not odd at all…. it’s stupid, to say the least O.o I mean, they calculate the gold ammo price ingame with conversion from credits… but here, they calculate from €? It’s just stupid, even if they do try to appear accurate with these discounts.
Well, it is a good way to “F” up those who just watch the %…
To me, it seems completely unintuitive.
SS, as you pointed out, its arbitrary… the misrepresentation is the apparent reduction in price which appears at first sight to be more than it really is… or to put it another way, the lack of transparency…
It’s not arbitrary. 2500 gold packages are most likely the most sold gold packages. The fact is very few people buy ingame tanks from the shop, but most by ingame with gold. The ‘daddies’ after a five-loss streak with the KV1. So yeah, it’s logical they use the 2500 gold packages as a baseline.
I see wqhere this is going. Bitcoins you know of. Soon there will be WG coins. It has begun!
Its WoT EU, did you expect it to make sense?
It’s the gift shop where you pay real money for the tanks, not ingame gold.
The prices in the gift shop are randomly selected, they are not calculated on any gold per Euro base.
Remember the WoT boxes with the Hotchkiss, premium account and gold? I think they had the best gold per Euro factor, even better than the 100 Euro / 30K gold package (300 gold per EUro).
WG simply takes the normal price of the package of tank and garage slot (25,39€) and calculates the percent for the discount by comparing it to the worst gold for money factor you can get.
If you use the 99,95 for 30K gold the discount is much better, then it’s 36,5% as the gold for tank and garage slot would cost 16,13€ instead of 19,26€ when you purchase the 2500 Gold package.
The problem is that they don’t properly calculate the gift shop prices based on any gold package.
The Löwe for example would cost 50,94€ based on the 2500 gold package, 44,09€ based on the 14500 gold package and 42,65€ based on the 30K gold package.
But the gift shop price is 43,25€, far cheaper than the small gold package but it’s not the best price.
If they would use the same calculation for a discount, the Löwe and garage slot would cost 8900 gold.
WG would advertise a 8,1% discount but if you purchase a 30K gold package you would get the Löwe for 29,65€, a 31,44% discount.
OK, calculating a Löwe discount based on the 2500 gold package price would indeed be stupid because no one would purchase several small gold packages to buy one expensive tank.
I think the response to that is. Wibble.
2nd’d
Damn it, it’s in my mind and wants out.
Is the donkey dead or can we may try a comeback without ban?
It’s probably due to the Russian server’s way of pricing gold. The gold is all 250 gold per $1 US (or 2500 gold per $10 US). It doesn’t matter how much you buy, it’s still the same rate. No discounts for buying larger quantities (or you could look at it as no penalties for buying smaller amounts).
Sounds fairly sensible to me, actually. You have to keep the gold price in mind obviously, so you need to use an exchange rate. If you use the best one, you basically devaluate the bonus gold you get for buying the larger quantities in one go. So you get the basic gold exchange rate. They are not quite as idiotic as we thought., it would seem. :-)
Doesn’t explain how start with 30% off a tank and 50% off a garage slot, put them together and get 24% off the package.
You can’t use one exchange rate for the normal price then just decide to change it to a different one for the discount.
You may want to read the explanation again. :-) Anyway, I think it is bad practice to advetise x% off only to show it elsewhere as y% off – but that is a matter of sales technique rather than a matter of ripping people off.
I read the explanation several times and I stand by my original response.
Wibble.
I see what you mean. :-) There must be a different exchange rate to get a different percentage off. Apologies for my previous reply. I can see what the problem is, though. The gold price in game is easy to discount, but the shop has to use a gold exchange rate. Since that rate seems to change depending on the amount paid in real money, there is no easy way that i can think of to not get an odd discrepancy.
so price for e25 is 4690 not 4840… so 4690/251,2 = 18,67, which is 70% so yes e25 is 30% cheaper
No, because today’s discount in a Locust.
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