31.5.2014

- Storm states that the crowns of standing trees do provide a camo bonus, just as they did for 4 years now
- IS-3 will not appear in historical battles
- 9.2 will NOT bring Havok, but it will bring new HD tank models
- no plans to make T-50-2 a premium
- WoT map Stalingrad is 900×900 meters big, it will come “when it’s done”
- no plans to buff IS-6
- it’s not possible to download 9.1 test sounds independently and add it to the 9.1 live game
- no plans to buff IS-7 DPM
- Russian players will most likely not the same gold-awarding missions, as there were on EU server


- the 9.1 ASAP video having obsolete info? Storm: “Unfortunately, I am not responsible for ASAP video”
- apparently the decision to limit the ricocheting shells so that they can’t damage third party tanks (they can currently damage only the tank that shot them) was somewhat arbitrary and it is so now because it was simply never reviewed
- the gun barrels are not solid, because making them solid would add nothing to the gameplay, it would only cause players to suffer when driving through a forest or a city
- Storm confirms that damage from ramming objects (houses, rocks etc.) was removed specially to improve the comfortable gameplay in the game
- before 8.6, HDR/bloom effect could be disabled by disabling post-effects, now it can be disabled by lowering the lighting quality
- currently there are no registered WoT server side bugs that would cause lag/low FPS
- optimization is ongoing, as the players can see in 9.1
- there is no different in WoT packet sizes between 8.11 and 9.0, it’s possible the packet size changed in 8.11 itself with the new version of Big World

89 thoughts on “31.5.2014

  1. Again, no Havok. I’m so tired of hearing “no Havok in 9.X patch”.

    • Same here dude, it was the most interesting thing in 9.0 with the HD graphic…

      I was so excited about that

      • a friend of mine from the ru server (mind u im from ukraine so most of my friends are from the ru server) told me how they promised the physics that came in patch 8.0 or so i believe… (when everyone was cliff diving and such) some time during the 6.x patches saying it will be released with 7.0 but was released a year later so dont get ur hopes up with havok… just a bunch of promises

        • Obviously WG just likes to make promises just to laugh at the players when their expectations are shattered. They also like to kick puppies while visiting their office.

          They also have no clue as to what they are doing and do not waste time with such trivial things like planning and setting priorities for tasks that would be most beneficial for the company and the game in the long run.

          They should wise up and hire some of these brilliant, patient , and selfless individuals that roam the forums and play the game who spread happiness and solutions left and right.
          Who can program, model, and calculate every and all possible task with no error or mistake.

          Wanker.

        • nah, not true. They had colossal problems with servers at the time (player numbers were rising so fast they’ve barerly managed to cope with it), so the main priority for 7.0 was clasterization.

        • Actually, I already run at minimal, so I don’t want better graphics for the game. I want a better computer to be able to run the game as it was designed to run XD

          Anyway, from WoT I want nice graphics, so whatever they have right now is good enoug for me.
          HD tank models? Yeah, look nicer, but I’ve coped with the non-Hd models for years already, so whatever they fancy that doesn’t kill my machine is fine for me (that means, every release until 8.10, sadly).

      • And before that they swore it will come in 9.0.
        BTW why 9.6? Because it’s so distant?

        • Quote them swearing.
          If they did indeed swear then it was very stupid of them. You can’t predict the future down to the drop of rain, there are always things that can cause delays.

          I’d wager 9.6 because this is not a school project that is limited to when the student would stop procrastinating, and actually requires a lot of work.

          • Nah, they stated right from the start that havoc won’t come until 9.2 and probably not until 9.3, but definitely this year.

          • “They also have no clue as to what they are doing and do not waste time with such trivial things like planning and setting priorities for tasks that would be most beneficial for the company and the game in the long run.” <— after sarcasm filter, it reads: "They have plans what and when to put into the game."
            Yet you state in the reply above that they CAN'T MAKE ONE and they CAN'T FOLLOW IT?

            BTW: HR department can shift some people from one side-project to another. If they had trouble with HAVOC before then what did the HR guys do? And what if they have delayed the 9.0 patch for a little more (like 6 months)? Nobody would bat an eye IMO because THEY WOULD HAVE DELIVERED THE THINGS THEY STATED BEFORE! They never told us the days when the next patches come out so why not bring out the new patch "when it's done" (by "it's" i mean the promised things)?

            • They made the game not you so clearly they have an idea of what thier doing. Get your own company if your that whiny

            • They can have plans on how to act, but they shouldn’t promise that it will go according to plans. I did not contradict myself.
              “You can’t predict the future down to the drop of rain, there are always things that can cause delays.”
              Unforeseen consequences can happen. Make a plan but don’t assume it will go without delays. Ergo don’t promise a deadline written in stone.

              “I’d wager 9.6 because this is not a school project that is limited to when the student would stop procrastinating, and actually requires a lot of work.”
              I’m saying that this is a serious task that would need a lot of work to finish properly.

              I don’t work at WG nor do I have contact with anyone from there, I don’t know why they didn’t delay 9.0 to iron out the bugs, maybe they were eager to perform the live tests I understood that the issues with 9.0 came when the patch went live IIRC and it was fine during the testing, at least for me 9.0 gave me better performance as opposed to 8.11. Perhaps they have a quota to finish.
              Now as a I’m going through this thought process, it hit me, what if 9.0 and 9.1 are necessary for collecting data for HAVOC? HD graphics is a bit more obvious, and you have seen the amount of performance issues that arrived from it. These patchs are not just for content, they are also baby steps for introducing some of the more complex patches. I can imagine the kind of clusterfuck that could occur if they would have released HAVOC along with HD graphics, can you imagine how hard it would have been to isolate and find all the problems to fix?

              I’m patient with when they will provide HAVOC, as I was when they announced the Physics, I saw what they have already done with it and I’m satisfied to know that its coming. In the mean time the game is not turning worse with each passing day HAVOC is not released.
              And I don’t see where “When its done” implies promises. It shows that it might come, but not promise of a date. Even if they sack HAVOC ,which I hope not, there can always be factors that can come up and change the outcome.

  2. “- the gun barrels are not solid, because making them solid would add nothing to the gameplay, it would only cause players to suffer when driving through a forest or a city”

    Why do people want this feature so much? It would only make the game really irritating and hard for no good reason.
    People please. Ask proper questions.

    • Flying turrets? Are they any good?

      BTW if you add PHYSICS into the game you need to implement “solid objects” also.
      BTW BTW most people doesn’t understand why they shoot out of the aiming circle and response with “but my gun was at the target!!”.

      So adding the solid barrels would at least solve 2 things.

      • Obviously you don’t understand why they sometimes shoot outside the aiming circle either, if your proposed solution is to make the tank gun solid.

        • I understand it dude, but some morons don’t and most of them never will. So why not help those idiots by removing their “problem”?

          • How would having a solid barrel fix the problem of desynchronization between the server and the client aiming? Or are you talking about a different issue?

      • wont solve anything only increase of random fraustration and crying about dmged guns in the forum!

        • “Damaged gun? Use repair kit. Or get the gunner skill.”
          There. Solved the outcry WG style.

          • Gunner skills gives 20% which in some tanks can be ok in other dont
            also repair kit should be used for other stuff
            and 1 more thing sidescraping with tanks that have in front the guns will be a pain in the ass to do it

    • But it WOULD have made difference on gameplay. For exapmle, peek-a-boo tactic would no longer work. It is kinda stupid that IS-7 with that long barrel can have it’s barrel through the wall of a building and than just drive forward, shoot and retreat. If the barrel was solid it would require turning the turret, and AIM….
      So in my opinion it would affect the gameplay, and even more in urban areas aka Himmelsdorf or Ensk….

    • this is the dumbest idea I ever heard, and it’s going on and on like the fucking DuraCell bunny

      to show them how fucking stupid this is, WG should implement it as 1 day optional (disabled by default) – ppl don’t understand it’s bad to touch a hot plate until they burn themselves

        • If no other game have solid barrels then wg should not implement it?
          Brilliant logic there dude. :D

          • no, goes to show that not even Gaijin that implemented and did a lot of stuff WG didn’t want to do or said they were stupid
            didn’t want to implement solid gun barrels, not even in sim battles

            if you want it so much, they should make it on your account .. special and can’t be turned off

          • I get it was a paralelism.
            WoT disabled tank damage from ramming houses and trees. WT does damage the tank.
            But even Gaijin saw how making a solid barrel would create more troubles than it would enhance “realism”, so Wargaming doesn’t have to follow such a route, taking into account that their games are “less realistic” than the competence.

      • Having played tank sims before WoT where barrel collision WAS a thing, I can tell you that yes, it can be frustrating… if you’re used to the current setup where the gun barrel is only a thing when you’re shooting at it. What it would do would force a change of strategy in city maps, in part because peek-a-boom would no longer work. That being said, it has no place in an arcade game (Because regardless of what anyone says WoT will never be anything but) like World of Tanks, and Wargaming made the right decision leaving it out, because it’d be another mechanic that would piss off new players and possibly cause them to leave, thus losing WG money.

  3. - it’s not possible to download 9.1 test sounds independently and add it to the 9.1 live game

    Oke clear. But when you have then backup-ed from test 1, will it be possible to use them?

    - there is no different in WoT packet sizes between 8.11 and 9.0, it’s possible the packet size changed in 8.11 itself with the new version of Big World

    So could this be related to all the lagg and connecivity issues a lot of players have been addressing since 8.11? Personally 8.10 ran ‘flawless’, no lag, until 8.11 came along.

    • Oke clear. But when you have then backup-ed from test 1, will it be possible to use them?

      I think you should be able, haven’t tested it yet with test 2 client.

    • I’ve tested the 9.1 test 1 sounds on test 2 and they work . The hellcat engine didn’t work but the rest worked fine for me .

  4. - no plans to make T-50-2 a premium

    I’m sad now but hope dies last.

    - the 9.1 ASAP video having obsolete info? Storm: “Unfortunately, I am not responsible for ASAP video”

    Storm later added: “But we banned the botters!”

    - the gun barrels are not solid, because making them solid would add nothing to the gameplay, it would only cause players to suffer when driving through a forest or a city

    Having problem in cities or forrests? How terrible.
    BTW exploding tanks were also “adding nothing” things as far as i can remember.

    • BTW exploding tanks were also “adding nothing” things as far as i can remember.

      But it didn’t cause players to suffer, right? It’s unfair to mention one and not the other.

      • “But it didn’t cause players to suffer, right?”

        “THE TURRET STUCK ON ME!!!”
        Yeah right…

        • 1 / 100 chance a turret lands on top of you, equals the strain of having a solid gun through the entire game for every match.

          Brilliant conclusion Socrates.

          Exploding turrets is also amusing and an interesting thing to see, struggling around cover is not.

          • I sense you drive a KV-1S with the peek-a-boo tactic.

            BTW: what did you say when they implemented “physics”? Did you riot against it when you slipped from a hill? Did you rage when you jumped off from a bump and you lost your tracks?

            So why don’t you want to get solid barrels?

            • Who doesn’t use peek-a-boo tactics? Can you honestly tell me that you have never engaged an enemy from behind a corner then hid back into cover to avoid getting hit?

              I loved the physics, still love the physics, I was annoyed when they did not have physics. Though I have broken my tracks due to my driving my main reaction was “oops”.

              In all honesty I would cope with solid barrels, and would do fine if everyone else had to deal with it too. I can coupe with just about any gameplay change (If its reasonable). The problem with solid barrels is that it is a feature that I’m sure most players who asked for it would regret it. It’ll make things award, especially for some of the tanks with barrels the length of its own hull.

              As for the holy grail of butthurt the KV-1S, yes I have used it and gotten bored of it shortly after. I did not find it as overpowered as everyone makes it out to be, above average with its gun but not necessarily the deciding factor of the match.

  5. “- Storm confirms that damage from ramming objects (houses, rocks etc.) was removed specially to improve the comfortable gameplay in the game”

    Why the hell would anyone want that? Oh wait! The WarThunder fagboys.

    • the same people who want tank tipping, they think it’s a good thing but it won’t bring anything good.

    • Meh, WTGF messed that one up also, all you can do is bork your tracks. Maybe the tranny.

      IMO, if you are stupid and ram an immovable object at speed, it should hurt. That said, the only thing that should be that immovable is a large rock or such. A 4×4 porch support, or set of wooden stairs, most buildings, shouldn’t stop you or hurt. Hopefully the issue can be revisited once there are more destructible objects in game.

      For the same reason tank flipping should be in, just have it set with a timer like drowning. Don’t drive like you are in Mario Cart.

      • I did actually wreck my KV-1 transmission because I was retard trying to get through a thick tree ones. well still managed to kill 3 – 4 Player driven tanks and few AAA installations so my score luckily did not suck from my bad driving.

        Real charmer calling people fagboys if they like something diffirent. You must also be a fagboy if you do not use Lotus Embo toilet paper or wear Black Horse underwear! (though I think I may just have offended gay community by saying you are one).

  6. - 9.2 will NOT bring Havok, but it will bring new HD tank models
    Its confiremd, and I am dissepointed. Pleas atleast 9.3.. Its already late now!

    • This is turning out to be a pretty bad year as far as WoT is concerned, new tank releases were scaled back so that we could get HD models, as well as HAVOK, yet both those features are continually delayed, even worse WG keeps putting out buggy ass patches due to , what I can only assume is, pressure from higher ups to push out patches. Not an ideal state to be in considering their biggest competition just released their product to compete with WoT,( Though honestly Gaijin has a whole host of their own problems) and more competition is coming down the line, hopefully they have their shit together before the holiday season hits.

      • I wonder why World of Tanks patches is comming slower and with less content then before, the team cannot have gotten any smaller right?

        • I think most of them work at thinks we dont see/get atm. Like fixing havoc and improving the mechanism of adding hd tanks etc. All this needs time and u wont see anything of that work until its finished ;)

        • They are coming still as fast as in the past (ever 1,5 months one) and the “less content” is probably because the new functionalities and bug fixes aren’t as visible as: “We got a new branch of tanks, wow”.

        • They aren’t infact coming slower, just with less direct content. Only 9.0 took so long but besides that it is pretty normal atleast. 9.1 came in flying BTW

      • Big changes = Big bugs and problems. Doesn’t matter what company. Want an example? Look at Vista. It took them 3 years to fix that mess in a new OS, Windows 7. Another example? GTA 3. GTA’s first depature into a 3D open world was pretty lame: poor optimization, your character never said a word, and numerous other problems. Mostly all of that was fixed in subsequent GTA releases, perfected by the time GTA IV came out.

        There are countless other examples but the main trend is that no matter the reputation of the company and the competancy of the developers, any project going through a major change will inevitably have major problems that will have to take time to fix.

        Also, mind you that the company we’re talking about has most of their core developers in Kyiv, Ukraine, and I’m sure you know Ukraine isn’t doing very well right now.

  7. “- before 8.6, HDR/bloom effect could be disabled by disabling post-effects, now it can be disabled by lowering the lighting quality”

    I would much prefer individual options rather than this lumped in together system, then i would at least know what i was enabling/disabling

  8. “-no plans to buff IS-6″

    It is already the best tier 8 premium tank out there. Who wants the IS-6 to get buffed? As per Noobmeter the IS-6 earns the best credits in all tier 8 prem tanks. It has got insane armor (for tanks with sub 200 pen guns). I always have to use prem ammo in my super -poop-shing to pen IS-6 at distance.

    “- no plans to buff IS-7 DPM”
    Wasn’t it stated in ftr 3-4 days ago that IS-7 will get a DPM buff in the upcoming patches? Make up your mind.
    I don’t own one but I know it is a good tank (via test server).

    It is still the tank of choice for CW over E-100, T110E5 and Leo 1 (my 3 tier X tanks). and a hulldown IS-7 is impossible to kill. Still they want to buff it, go ahead.

    • WG never said they were going to buff the IS-7. It was a hoax that FTR and a few other sources picked up and quickly recanted.

      The IS-7 is in no way the tank of choice. Dunno what team you’ve been playing on…

      • They use it in hull down mostly and being the frontline tanks while making a push

        They are then followed up by the autoloaders (T57s mostly and occasionally 1 or 2 AMX 50B)

        Also in medium lines, the Obj 140 and T-62A are preferred over others.

    • IS-7 is only slighly harder to farm with medium tanks than the IS-8 both have atrocious side-armour to say the least and IS-7 is slow as fuck on most groundtypes do to horrible soft-stats. It is in no way a tank of choice for those reasons combined with that terrible gun. It might be faster than the E-100 or Maus but any other tank beats it in actual speed on most terrain types. IS-7 is only really good in flat city maps and even there the E-100 has a health advantage great enough to be a better pick.

      The IS-7 turret is ridiculous and the front is the same, but everything else about the tank is lackluster especially since it’s weakspot is ”anywhere but the front and turret”

      Note that I don’t even own the bloody thing, I tried it on the testserver myself back in 8.10 and I was really not even close to impressed. The IS-8 is much more fun to drive even if it’s armour is shitballs and the WZ-111 makes the IS-7 look like a clowncar on most occasions.

      • I tried it on the testserver myself back in 8.10 and I was really not even close to impressed.
        ____________________
        *facepalm* Trying out a tank on test server is as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike. Test server is consisted of 90% jerk off kids who has less than 2k battles, their highest tank on live server is T6 and they all driving hurrr durrr OP T10 tenks with prem ammo only so if you think you will get an overall image of how IS-7 is then you are wrong comrade. Try the tank on live server. It’s completely different.

        • Yes, because the mobility, terrible gun and super effective frontal armour change between test and live server and of course the super terrible side armour suddenly bounces shots like crazy while you can use the ass to tank some shots for you. I can penetrate the side of an IS-7 with a T-44 up to angles of 60 degrees and it still has the same weak-spot at the frontal sprocket as other heavies that every bloody medium play should know about now.

    • I bet you that you’re gonna be the same guy to complain about FPS drops, internet lag, and gameplay breaking when HAVOK does come out. And you’ll be joinin the bandwagon saying ‘WG RUSHED HAVOK, THEY SUCK’

  9. quote: “optimization is ongoing, as the players can see in 0.9.1″

    except for the fact that in 0.9.1 tests I have worse performance than I do with 0.9.0 live
    much optimization .. indeed

    • Back in the 8.11 test servers, I had a performance UPGRADE, and when it hit the live server it crapped my gameplay.
      So, if we follow the same logic, this performance hits in the test servers shall reflect an upgrade in the live server.
      Right?
      …………… RIGHT? :’(

      Shit, I’ll keep the compressed textures…..

  10. Just spotted WG fail on new “Top of the Tree: IS-7″ event page:

    “Use this opportunity to earn extra credits while driving these unique MEDIUM tanks or get them for 70% of their normal value!”.
    (Check the webpage for yourself, its under the 3 tank icons).

    • I would swear they are doing it on purpose. Either that or complete incompetence and ignorance.

  11. - 9.2 will NOT bring Havok, but it will bring new HD tank models

    I quite understand why. If Havok engine implemented first, the client size will bigger. And it might cause some FPS drop, if the HD Tanks is last. They testing HD tanks first and fix some FPS drop before implementing the Havok engine.

    • Well if Havok is coming along with multicore support that it is rumored to come with, I honestly do not think anyone will be seeing an fps drop. Most of the players have computer with atleast Duo core I would guess… If they would succeed to optimize the multicore well, I’d expect to see double, probably even triple rise in fps.

      Only thing lowering the fps further would be caused by added effects + graphics, such as HD tanks for example. And btw, it is only us few that has AMD FX processors that are mainly crying about multicore since Intel processors seems to have double fps compared to relatively priced AMD ones, probably thanks to hyper-threading, so ofc Intel owners would not know of this issue (lucky you).

      That is also why I would have wished that they took their time with 9.0, even if it took 6 to 12 months to introduce it with Havok + multicore than getting the HD models.

    • I bet you that you’re gonna be the same guy to complain about FPS drops, internet lag, and gameplay breaking when HAVOK does come out. And you’ll be joinin the bandwagon saying ‘WG RUSHED HAVOK, THEY SUCK’

  12. “- no plans to make T-50-2 a premium”

    I would pay 8000 gold for it in it’s original shape. My most beloved tank, almost 1000 battles before they took it away from me :<

    • Same here. I hope they will change their mind (like they did several times).

      LET US PRAY FOR THIS OPTION. :)

  13. how come the most successful company in the world history – WarGaming (inc) cannot improve their engine? last year they made 3.4 Trillion dollars, that is 700 Billion more then US Federal budget.

    • First: Their core engine might be one of the main faults.
      Ditching the core means ditching the engine, which means getting a new engine and learning how to make it work.
      Modifying the core means reworking the whole engine, which means creating a new engine and then elarning how to make it work.
      Both options aren’t just gonna work. Even less on a schedule.

      Second: They’ve been “improving” their ingine for a while….. then we had 8.11 and 9.0….. I’d prefer them to roll-back to 8.10, instead of improving more stuff, thank you.

      Third: They’re working on so many upgrades (havok, explosions, new physics, new sounds) that adding an engine-rework would only add to the non-visible “upgrades”. Let them finish one thing at a time, and let’s pray they do it well.

      • When you ditch the old engine, you can also ditch the old workers and hire ones that know how Havok works. (I know, I know, cold but that is how most do business these days.)

        Please do not suggest that to WG though, I am quite fond of myself being alive.

        Second I agree with you.

        Third: I would love to see multicore to actually run the game at +30 fps (I know, first world problems) rather than the fancy visible upgrades, as for I absolutely loved the game from patch 8.2 when I hopped into bandwagon until 8.10 when I was still running at 50+ fps.

    • Only a bunch of autistic kids arguing over stuff that they know little to nothing about. Oh, a couple of them think that sarcasm is hilarious. Don’t read it. I did and I’m pretty sure I now have cancer :|

  14. People who want solid gun barrels haven’t watched that scene of Kelly’s Heroes where the Tiger gets killed because of objects that block the gun.

  15. I see. So they can forcefully remove the T-50-2 that I spent gold (free xp and what not) on, give me the shit MT-25. Then POSSIBLY sell it back later for money. (Yes I know it said “we have no plans to make it premium” but we all know WG)

  16. “- the gun barrels are not solid, because making them solid would add nothing to the gameplay, it would only cause players to suffer when driving through a forest or a city”

    So why not make the panther its own game mode ie Panther Joust :P

    • If making players to suffer is not adding to a gameplay, what is? I mean Dark Souls is a game that mostly sells on the fact that it makes you suffer. How is adding HD models to the game adding something on the gameplay? is new HD models so shiny that you get blinded when you aim at them?

      Also, love your idea of Panther Joust, who cares about historical battles, make them historical panther joust battles. :D