Part I – Introduction
Part II – Italy, Czechoslovakia
Part III – Hungary
Part IV – Sweden
Part V – Yugoslavia
Part VI – Poland
Hello everyone,
today, we are continuing the the European tech tree vehicle article series with an overview of the Spanish tanks. Now, there is a little problem with Spanish tanks from my point of view. All the info is in Spanish. And I don’t speak Spanish. Fortunately, there is Mr.R.Delineante, who was kind enough to provide us with his tree proposal. The way I see it, the Spanish can actually build a serious medium branch and have a couple of interesting vehicles of their own.
And here is a 16 page document, roughly describing the Spanish tank industry I don’t know how about you, but this does sound pretty ínteresting to me. The file was originally in PDF format (available here), but I decided to convert it into jpegs for easier viewing. Enjoy.
This tree is make me feel kindof “meh”
There is a reason it’s listed as “part 7″ and not “part 1″ :) Still some of the vehicles are very original.
Well, if you remove ‘meh’ stuff (Panzer IV, M24, M56, M41, Scorpion) – it looks good, there are a lot of original tanks on 2-5.
Well , they just not done yes , is look to me like the batchat tree or the 121 tree , BUT ! What that tier 10 TD doing there from the medium line =]] is look funny
Well, the Tier X TD was a last-minute addition as I found that obscure vehicle once the rest of the tree was crafted. There was a huge gap at the TD line after tier VII, so I decided to put it there as it is kind of a close relative of the Patton series.
About the Pz IV and M24, the Tech Tree tells you if you zoom on it that they are only there to link with other Varied nations tree, such as the sudamerican ones with the Chafee and various EU ones with the Pz IV.
And about tiers after V, yes, there is some copy/paste as that was a PITA to build due to the lack of vehicles on those years/tech level(heck, out T-26s were still operational until we received M24s and Pattons). Tier VII M41/60 and the Tier X frankentanks are good stuff in my opinion, though.
I don’t see why would the “sudaca” tech tree be linked with the European one, to be honest.
Probably in the case than isn’t just a Euro tree or if is a “latin” tree
I wouldn`t see a tree like that in the early phase of the eu tree.
Well not as their own complete branches ; but the Verdejas could be fun at low tiers.
spanish tanks?????……..rofl almost as funny as italian tanks (though i would love italian tanks for their rear armour!)
at least they dont riveted every tank so enemy shells could kill the entire crew :P
spain only has original content for a low tier branch, most tanks t5 and over should be on other trees or doesnt fit into the game.
If they get the Scorpion then the Mighty Brits need it as well in their tech tree!
this^^
And, don’t forget that muricans will soon get it as prem vehicle :)
2 different scorpions fyi.
Verdeja I looks like A-44!
I only knew about the Verdeja 1, Verdeja 2 and Verdeja 75 mm. I used to think that the Verdeja 75 mm is an arty piece, not a TD. Anyway… original spanish concepts end at tier 5.
Will we see a similar article about a romanian tech tree?
Information about Trubia mod 36/ naval is incorrect. It had 13+8mm espaced armor protection. Who wrote the article underestood it had 3 layers, 13+36+8mm, but was not correct. The 36 number is the espace between both layers, the 8mm were inside to protecto the crew from spalling. Most of the information of the pdf file was taken from the book “Carros de Combate y Vehículos de Cadenas del Ejército Español. Un Siglo de Historia”.
Anyway, I dissagree with the tier of some of these tanks. Verdeja had the T-26 early 45mm gun, so It’s upgunned for being a tier IV scout.
Greetings
Hi,
Of course the proper steel layers were those, but my information says that those 36 mm were filled by some sort of softer material, being inconclusive if it was some sort of metalllic mesh or even simply soft waste, like pieces of old matresses.
The Verdeja’s cannons issue is due to two things: the first is WoT penchant for planned, prototype guns. The second is because of the reports that tell the possibility of the turret to house bigger guns but installing the 45 mm on the prototypes because it was the only really plentiful tank gun in Spain.
That’s not correct. I’m spanish and I have captures of the book where it is said that these 36mm aren’t armor. I had to correct Martillo’s article about that.
The book says “un espaciado denominado entrehierro de 25mm”. That 25mm espace is called “entrehierro”, the name of that espace where there is nothing. The correct armor is 13mm+3mm = 16mm.
What comes next? Luxemburg, Monaco or Ostfriesland?
There’s some rather interesting low tiers in here…the upper tiers just kinda get into rehashes of the current trees though :(
El Obùs se parece que habrà sido un ELC grande con el BL-10. Que tendrà una talla similar?
Higher tiers are just NATO….Not necessary is bad as the EU tree should allow join ending; for example Italy and Spain have AMX-30 as their same t10….
OS FALTA EL LINCE.Carro de combate Lince SE TRATA DE UN LEOPARD ADAPTADO AL TERRENO ESPAÑOL.SERIA UN BUEN TIER X
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SS, how can you call that a “serious medium line” when there is zero own tanks in that above tier 5? Thats just copy-paste of German/American verhicles that should better by implemented in their homecounty lines.
Otherwise the T10 SPG is too new with its 1k hp engine and 80km’h speed, you cannot claim a vehicle “matches WoT” just because it has low armour and obsolete gun, there are other parameters that should be considered.
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